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re: History of Saints QBs

Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by FleuryNipples
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:19 pm to
Damn, we had Aaron Brooks for 82 games...
Posted by JagHammer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Heath Shuler 4-5-0


How did he win four games?
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:41 pm to
Look at the lack of offensive talent around around Archie until Hank Stram showed up. I'm not exaggerating when I say the lack of offensive talent may have been unprecedented in the history of the NFL.

And then when Stram's talent matured under Dick Nolan, they had perhaps one of the worst defenses in the history of the NFL, as well as a locker room literally full of cokeheads.

Archie deserved better.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 4:30 pm to
Most folks just don't understand how bad the Archie teams were most years.

As to Bobby. Let me say that if Drew had carl (3rd an long) Smith as his coach he would have been long gone from here or put a gun in his mouth.

One of the worst OC's in the history of the NFL.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

carl (3rd an long) Smith


Just reading that name gives me chills!
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3615 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 7:39 am to
Unless Brees plays until he is 50 I don't see anyone surpassing Manning's loss total. Poor guy.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Archie Manning 35-91-3


quote:

Archie Manning with 340







poor archie
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:09 am to
quote:

carl (3rd an long) Smith. Just reading that name gives me chills!


good thread/ Worse coordinator, Carl Smith or Rick Venturi?

Brees 33 losses in 95 games, today's countdown QBs Kilmer & Everett (#17) had 29 & 30 losses in 49 & 47 games... mind numbingly bad
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:59 am to
Re Shuler: I posted this a few months ago but once more won't kill anybody.

I seem to recall there was one game where Shuler finally seemed to have turned the corner (I visualize it outside so it was an away game). The Saints had a lead very late and just had to gain a couple of first downs to win. But Ditka ordered Shuler to keep passing. He ended up throwing an interception and the Saints lost. And Shuler was never again the same player.

Does anyone remember this?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34587 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 11:06 am to
Carl Smith.......Woody Hayes reincarnated. The Saints were the only team in the league who would sit on a 3-point halftime lead
Posted by Tyghas
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Kerry Collins 2-5-0
Billy Joe Tolliver 2-9-0
Danny Wuerffel 2-4-0
Heath Shuler 4-5-0
Billy Joe Hobert 4-8-0
Doug Nussmeier 0-2-0


Those were some shite years. Makes youn realize how good we got it now.

Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29365 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 1:28 pm to
Look at it this way. Everett took his last snap in '96. We had 11 QB's start a game over the next 10 seasons until Drew.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34451 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 2:31 pm to
I thought the Billy Joes played more.

quote:

Jeff Blake 7-4-0
Could've been a contender.
This post was edited on 7/19/12 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Thracken13
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:06 pm to
I was actually a big Blake fan, and it pissed me off how they did him in regards to brooks.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

I seem to recall there was one game where Shuler finally seemed to have turned the corner (I visualize it outside so it was an away game). The Saints had a lead very late and just had to gain a couple of first downs to win. But Ditka ordered Shuler to keep passing. He ended up throwing an interception and the Saints lost. And Shuler was never again the same player.


seriously, I can't remember a time when it looked like Shuler was turning the corner, he sucked. three games that really come to mind about him that year where the San Diego game at home, the road game in Chicago, and the home game against the Seahawks.

in the San Diego game, he tossed like 2 or 3 ints. I remember that Jim Everett was the Chargers QB and he threw a late TD pass to put the game out of reach. He looked over at the Saints bench as he trotted down the field after the play and gave them a cocky look to suggest that they should not have gotten rid of him.

in the bears game in Ditka's return to Chicago, he threw a bomb to Randall Hill late in the game that ended up winning it for us. To me, that was his best moment as a Saint even though I think he had a mediocre game in general.

in the Seattle game, he got picked off and the guy ran it back for a TD. The Saints rallied for the win but I don't think he finished the game. I think either Wuerffel or Nussmeier finished the game at QB. Doug Brien hit a field goal for the win in OT. I think this may be the game you are thinking of only it wasn't a road game. I don't know how much he played the rest of the year, or if he did at all. He didn't return the next year though
This post was edited on 7/19/12 at 10:45 pm
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 11:03 pm to
oh and here is a small clip from that Seattle game. Trust me on this, I've watched too many season highlight tapes it was after Brien's kick that won it for us in OT.

We became a team Today- Ditka
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
54025 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 11:12 pm to
Hearing the name Carl Smith makes my ears bleed. He was the worst. Still can't believe we turned into a winning organization with a HOF quarterback and a Super Bowl win. Have to pinch myself sometimes. I remember going into the Dome on Sundays during the Ditka era hoping the game would be competitive. Thank You Brees, Payton, and Loomis. WHO DAT!!!!!!
This post was edited on 7/19/12 at 11:13 pm
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32858 posts
Posted on 10/1/12 at 7:24 am to
I'm bumping this thread in response to all the shitty post about trading Drew Brees or saying he's overpaid or Hirt the team or whatever else y'all come up with today.

Get a clue Saintards!!!
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