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Democrats threaten to go over ‘fiscal cliff’ if GOP fails to raise taxes



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Democrats are making increasingly explicit threats about their willingness to let nearly $600 billion worth of tax hikes and spending cuts take effect in January unless Republicans drop their opposition to higher taxes for the nation’s wealthiest households.

Emboldened by signs that GOP resistance to new taxes may be weakening, senior Democrats say they are prepared to weather a fiscal event that could plunge the nation back into recession if the new year arrives without an acceptable compromise.

In a speech Monday, Sen. Patty Murray (Wash.), the Senate’s No. 4 Democrat and the leader of the caucus’s campaign arm, plans to make the clearest case yet for going over what some have called the “fiscal cliff.”

“If we can’t get a good deal, a balanced deal that calls on the wealthy to pay their fair share, then I will absolutely continue this debate into 2013,” Murray plans to say, according to excerpts of the speech provided to The Washington Post.









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John McClane
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I don't know how they sleep at night.





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they are prepared to weather a fiscal event that could plunge the nation back into recession if the new year arrives without an acceptable compromise.


An by acceptable compromise, they mean "Do exactly as we want or the American public gets it?" Yea, so glad these people are looking after our best interests.






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GeauxUtes
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Pelosi has mentioned raising the bar from the $250,000 limit that Obama wants, to $1M +. This would bring Democrats' actions in line with their words to raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires by just focusing on those groups.

I would be less opposed to Pelosi's plan but Obama's is too far.






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Tim
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They should call their bluff, let's see if we go over that cliff..I would like to see where we woud be right now without the bailouts, we know for a fact the stimulus didn't keep unemployment low...we should just sit back and see what happens, hell, we are all in this together, right...if we are all in this together, why single out the people that make more money? Everyone helped their success, if true, everyone should participate...





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John McClane
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According to the CBO, the top 20% of earners paid nearly 94% of all taxes in 2008-2009. I'd say they have been paying their fair share.





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CamdenTiger
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So they would let taxes increase on the middle class, just so they can blame it on the Repubs who only control one arm of Congress? Wow, how do the people they continue to screw keep buying their shit?





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90proofprofessional
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holding the economy hostage






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southernelite
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then I will absolutely continue this debate into 2013,” Murray plans to say,


Too bad she'll be in the minority by then and quite helpless.

By 2013 the Republicans will be very busy cleaning up the mess of the Obama carnage and getting the country back on the right track.






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Hmerly
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So dems admit to only caring about getting their way, screw the citizenry that elected them? They admit that they don't care if the country goes back into recession????!!! WHO THE HELL KEEPS VOTING THESE IDIOTS BACK IN TO OFFICE?





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Good, let it fail.





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memphis tiger
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Still waiting for someone to define "fair share"





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Godfather1
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These people are evil. I'm now convinced of it.





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LSUgusto
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But, did y'all hear that Romney attended a Bain meeting in 2001?

Priorities, people!






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Duke
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Pelosi has mentioned raising the bar from the $250,000 limit that Obama wants, to $1M +. This would bring Democrats' actions in line with their words to raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires by just focusing on those groups.


It's all part of the game. They'll let this debate go on in the media for a few weeks. Then Obama will "compromise" to the 1 million mark, which is probably what he really wants anyway. So he can say he's willing to compromise, and the GOP wouldn't.

Election year politics......






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RCDfan1950
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The Dems (Socialists) are going to push the private economy over the 'fiscal cliff'...REGARDLESS. Cloward Piven...the surefire way to "fundamentally transform this nation" into the European Social Democracy State.

For all practical purposes, this debate is moot, under the current parameters. The numbers are guaranteed to define the future form of 'government' and culture. No way the private economy can uphold the unrealistic guarantees and unfunded mandates and promises. It will all fall on the government to deliver 'bailouts', and the only source and form such can take will be creating 'fiat' money. Only the Lord knows how that will work out.







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SlowFlowPro
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to be fair, this isn't much/any different than the GOP holding up the process during the debt limit thing

however, DA cannot repeat the echo chamber about how the GOP are obstructionists hell bent on watching it all burn

seems both are welcome to use that threat






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Taxing Authority
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An by acceptable compromise, they mean "Do exactly as we want or the American public gets it?"
Yup. Holding a gun to our heads.






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Doctor Radical
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Democrats say they are prepared to weather a fiscal event that could plunge the nation back into recession if the new year arrives without an acceptable compromise.



Eh.

I doubt we're simply the Bush tax cuts away from recession.

This whole "fiscal cliff" crap is just media banter.






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Good Times
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Yup. Holding a gun to our heads.


No, the word "g*n" is unacceptable. But, "a boot on their necks", has already passed muster.






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