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re: Bob Costas just called for death penalty at PSU
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:25 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:25 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
you can clean house without firing everyone....but do i think the BOD needs some fresh blood...YES
do i think the entire management level of the athletic department needs to be fired....YES...
do i think the academic administration needs to be fired....YES...
do i think penn state needs their version of a hondo campbell or a russ honore to take over as president and kick some arse....U BETCHA....
do i think the entire management level of the athletic department needs to be fired....YES...
do i think the academic administration needs to be fired....YES...
do i think penn state needs their version of a hondo campbell or a russ honore to take over as president and kick some arse....U BETCHA....
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Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:28 pm to vl100butch
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vl100butch
There are ways to handle firing people that were involved without nuking the whole place. The Freeh report is just the beginning.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:29 pm to vl100butch
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do i think the entire management level of the athletic department needs to be fired....YES...
do i think the academic administration needs to be fired....YES...
That is the cowardly thing to do
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:32 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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That is the cowardly thing to do
what a crock of shite!!!!
it's like the gaulieters when the army marched into germany in 1945...."i vas never a nazi....
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:36 pm to vl100butch
Its cowardly to sacrifice innocent people because you're too weak to accept the anger from some people
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:36 pm to lsuroadie
The institution is totally at fault; however, IMO it is NOT the NCAA's responsibility to punish them. Its should be done by the state of Pennsylvania and the punishment should be very severe. The only way to appropriately punish this school it to take away what it deems most important, football!
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:40 pm to STEVED00
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The institution is totally at fault; however, IMO it is NOT the NCAA's responsibility to punish them. Its should be done by the state of Pennsylvania and the punishment should be very severe. The only way to appropriately punish this school it to take away what it deems most important, football!
Who specifically is being punished?
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:40 pm to lsuroadie
Penn state.
Where they don't separate the men from the boys.
Where they don't separate the men from the boys.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:42 pm to rocket31
I support busting Penn St. down to DIII for 10 years, then allowing them to move up the ranks 1 level at a time, after minimum of 5 years at each level.
25 years should be long enough for them to get their shite straight and end the hero worship. The comments on their scout page show just how deep the cult and cover up culture goes there.
25 years should be long enough for them to get their shite straight and end the hero worship. The comments on their scout page show just how deep the cult and cover up culture goes there.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:43 pm to STEVED00
Football at Penn State should be a non-televised, non-bowl, non-conference, non-playoff sport for however long the pedophilia was allowed to go on (10 years?)
I don't know if that means they are an FBS or FCS independent or DIII or NAIA or whatever.
You don't need to kill the program, but you need to kill the profit motive that drove an entire athletic administration to look the other way at children getting raped by football coaches.
I don't know if that means they are an FBS or FCS independent or DIII or NAIA or whatever.
You don't need to kill the program, but you need to kill the profit motive that drove an entire athletic administration to look the other way at children getting raped by football coaches.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:47 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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VerlanderBEAST
FB needs to be canned for this year. In it's place, every Saturday during football season, there needs to be 100,000 tailgating fans celebrating children's lives at PSU football facilities.... full of games, speakers, storytellers, arts and crafts and book signings. Thousands of kids can come from every reach of PA. All paid for by PSU and supported by every PSU fan.
Then I'll listen to you initiating FB back into Happy Valley
Posted on 7/15/12 at 6:57 pm to lsuroadie
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FB needs to be canned for this year. In it's place, every Saturday during football season, there needs to be 100,000 tailgating fans celebrating children's lives at PSU football facilities.... full of games, speakers, storytellers, arts and crafts and book signings. Thousands of kids can come from every reach of PA. All paid for by PSU and supported by every PSU fan.
I would be in favor of this but I doubt it would ever work.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 7:00 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Total lack of institutional control
Posted on 7/15/12 at 7:08 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
the whole state should not have to suffer further punishment than already suffered.
a few people were insensitive and allowed the SAME kinds of sexual taboo behavior as PRIESTS have done, and just as individual Catholic cardinals and bishops were covering it up (like the State Penn president did), the entire Catholic church was not disbanded just because out of millions of its members, some gave in to their sexual lust.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 7:20 pm to ottothewise
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the entire Catholic church was not disbande
Tired of seeing this comparison made.
To be equivocal, it would be like shutting down the NCAA because of what Penn State did. Shutting down a church or parish is more like shutting down just the University/it's athletics.
This post was edited on 7/15/12 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 7/15/12 at 7:34 pm to lsuroadie
Anyone who argues against the death penalty because innocent players will be impacted should also be speaking out against civil lawsuits against PSU. The millions of dollars that PSU stands to lose will impact all the same innocent athletes as well as the entire student body and university employees. Same with suits against the direct participants. Why should their innocent families suffer just because Dad did something wrong?
And there was a payoff. Sandusky received $168,000 in hush money. That's close to (alleged) Cam Newton money. In return, the athletic program received a competitive advantage of keeping the awful truth hidden from recruits and parents.
And there was a payoff. Sandusky received $168,000 in hush money. That's close to (alleged) Cam Newton money. In return, the athletic program received a competitive advantage of keeping the awful truth hidden from recruits and parents.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 7:47 pm to BobABooey
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Same with suits against the direct participants. Why should their innocent families suffer just because Dad did something wrong?
This is a more complicated issue ideally the direct participants in the cover up would just be thrown in jail for 10-20 years and hopefully estranged from their families.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 7:49 pm to BobABooey
to the many contributions in this thread. It reminds of the quote by author V.S. Naipaul:
"One always writes comedy at the moment of deepest hysteria."
Posted on 7/15/12 at 8:14 pm to lsuroadie
Tried to think of a sports precedent for this and, at least that I know of there's not one. Munich, Marshall? Horrible but not the same.
I don't in any way want innocents (though that's already occurred) to suffer, but how do you even approach this sh#t?
BoT,in my humble needs to find a way to get out in front so this once great, but retrospectively really f#%ked up program can get a clean start.
I'm not sure how to do that without shutting it down for a short time. I get the logistics and such but just wtf do you do considering that this could STILL get worse as people that want to save their a$$es start talking?
I don't in any way want innocents (though that's already occurred) to suffer, but how do you even approach this sh#t?
BoT,in my humble needs to find a way to get out in front so this once great, but retrospectively really f#%ked up program can get a clean start.
I'm not sure how to do that without shutting it down for a short time. I get the logistics and such but just wtf do you do considering that this could STILL get worse as people that want to save their a$$es start talking?
Posted on 7/15/12 at 8:22 pm to Backinthe615
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I'm not sure how to do that without shutting it down for a short time. I get the logistics and such but just wtf do you do considering that this could STILL get worse as people that want to save their a$$es start talking?
you nailed it....when the hard questions start to get asked by the feds, who knows what the fallout will be....
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