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re: TD Saints Talk (cdaniel76's League) YEAR-LONG THREAD.

Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by stonedbegonias
Member since Jan 2010
11577 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

i wish someone would take brees from me.. i need RB help bad, but maybe i'm expecting too much in return for him..


is it unreasonable to expect a top RB for brees? serious question



If you're expecting to get Arian Foster or Ray Rice then yes, you shouldn't expect that. Especially with 4 point passing TD's.

What RB's would you accept straight up for Brees?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:28 pm to
i really messed up during the draft.. the damn computer autopicked for me 3 times




and i think that this league is so deep that free agency is SHOT for the rest of the year so unless you trade with someone, your rosters are set for the most part
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

What RB's would you accept straight up for Brees?




before you said that, i was kind of expecting foster or rice.. maybe if someone would throw in a servicable QB with a really good RB i'd consider, but if my demand doesn't meet the market value then i'll just have to stay with what i have
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:34 pm to
and to tell you the truth, i don't understand why drew brees isn't worth a foster/rice type of running back


these are the average points per game for the 3 players i mentioned

brees - 27.30
foster - 19.05
rice - 18.22
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 1:35 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

these are the average points per game for the 3 players i mentioned

brees - 27.30
foster - 19.05
rice - 18.22


That doesn't really many anything. What matters is who you can replace Brees with. You can probably pick up a QB that averages 15 points right now. You can't find a RB that averages 10pts.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:28 pm to
i don't understand why you say that don't mean anything?? y'all said that i shouldn't expect to get a RB like rice or foster, but brees' production exceeds what they produce... i get ZERO consistent out of my RBs right now

i'm not trying to start an argument with you, i'm just stating my case.. if nobody wants to make the trade, i'll just DWI
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4245 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:43 pm to
I know you already declined, but my Cam/McCoy combo is still on the table if you can give me a startable RB in return.
Posted by stonedbegonias
Member since Jan 2010
11577 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Cam/McCoy


That sounds very decent.

I offered Eli/MJD straight up because it was the best I could offer. I've never had Brees before in a league and my homerness demanded I offer something .
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4245 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:50 pm to


Yeah I don't have him in any leagues and I would love to get him.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:52 pm to
if that's the case, you'd be taking brees AND my only RB worth a shite, frank gore...


then i'd be in a position that would leave me even worse off than i was before

brees (6th ranked QB) > newton (13th ranked QB)
gore (10th ranked RB) > mccoy (13th ranked RB)



now, if you would accept michael bush and brees for the same two players, i might be interested in doing that
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Cam/McCoy That sounds very decent.




don't get me wrong, that's a fair offer.. but he wants frank gore also, and that's the only other good RB i have.. i just think that brees/bush for newton/mccoy balances out the trade a little more..

i think he's pretty solid at RB with Reggie Bush, McCoy, Stewart, and Pierre Thomas
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4245 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:55 pm to
I just saw that's your only two real serviceable RBs. Hmm, let me think.

I'm going to go ahead and assume you wouldn't do Brees/Bush for Cam/Reggie.

Or..

Would you give Gore with McCoy in the deal, if I gave you a WR upgrade of Harvin for Thomas?

You seem adamant about trading him, so I'm just thinking of different ways to work something out. I honestly think Cam gets it going and is top 7 the rest of the year and same for McCoy.
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4245 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

TouchdownMoses


What would it take to get Spiller. I'm kind of going all in on him and trying to snag him in a couple leagues.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

I'm going to go ahead and assume you wouldn't do Brees/Bush for Cam/Reggie.



correct..



if you were to trade newton and mccoy, you'd still be left with two solid RBs and on top of that, you'd have consistant production from your QB spot...


quote:

Would you give Gore with McCoy in the deal, if I gave you a WR upgrade of Harvin for Thomas?


so you're saying a 6 player deal??

brees
gore
thomas

FOR

newton
mccoy
harvin


intriguing... i'll look into that, but your best chance would be for the deal to be brees and bush for mccoy and newton
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

quote:TouchdownMoses What would it take to get Spiller. I'm kind of going all in on him and trying to snag him in a couple leagues.







hold on negro, we're not done here




Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4245 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 3:15 pm to


I was thinking about Spiller on the side of a potential deal between us, nothing to screw it up. Think about it and let me know. It's all good.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 3:19 pm to
honestly, i think anything other than the deal i mentioned would hurt me more than it helps me.. so i don't mean to be a dick when i say that brees an bush for newton and mccoy is your final offer, but it pretty much is...


let me know if you change your mind
Posted by tigerNation09
New Orleans PELICANS Fan
Member since Nov 2008
12977 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 3:25 pm to
I need a wr guys, offer me some reasonable trades
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4245 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 3:35 pm to
I hear ya. With good RBs coming at a premium, I feel as if I can't leave myself that weak to get Drew. I have to trust what I have keeps working as well as it has already.

No problem at all. Good luck to you, Sir.
Posted by DCBJR6
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2011
4245 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 3:39 pm to
YOU make an offer!

Forte/Garcon

For

Cobb/DMoore/PThomas
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 3:46 pm
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