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re: Liverpool FC 2012/13 Season Long Thread
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:00 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:00 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Mingolet is probably better in goal, but it's his feet that concern me. Can he replicate playing the ball 20 yards out to center backs like Reina?
I think the writing in the wall here is that Reina might be gone soon.
I think the writing in the wall here is that Reina might be gone soon.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 11:02 pm
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:13 pm to Meursault
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:07 am to WeOnlyHateMancs
quote:
I am unconvinced by him. Let see how this boils down.
Same. Not a bad player, but seems like a waste for 20mil. As of now I think we can do better.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:24 am to BleedPurpleGold
Very, very far from a waste. If bought, he would immediately slot into the first team and would be a huge boost. Here is a fantastic player discussion of him from r/soccer a couple days ago
Far and away his best asset is his pace, which would be immense for our midfield. WIth Lucas and Gerrard in the holding mid spots, there leaves a lot to be desired in terms of sheer pressing ability. Take a look at his acceleration and speed:
With him in the side, this is what our lineup would probably look like (assuming Suarez stays):
-------------Sturridge
Cou-----------Mkhit---------Suarez
That is a great front 4 that can fluidly move at will. Suarez, Coutinho and Mkhit can all play in any attacking position from the midfield, and they can all also play as wingers. Suarez can interchange with Sturridge, and Mkit can even play as a holding mid in a pinch (apparently where he plays for his NT). He has the pace and energy to play box-to-box, something we have been missing badly since Gerrard lost his legs.
Without Suarez:
------------Sturridge/Borini
Cou-------------Mkhit--------Downing/Aspas/Sturridge
Obviously not as good without Suarez, but still a good front 4.
Far and away his best asset is his pace, which would be immense for our midfield. WIth Lucas and Gerrard in the holding mid spots, there leaves a lot to be desired in terms of sheer pressing ability. Take a look at his acceleration and speed:
With him in the side, this is what our lineup would probably look like (assuming Suarez stays):
-------------Sturridge
Cou-----------Mkhit---------Suarez
That is a great front 4 that can fluidly move at will. Suarez, Coutinho and Mkhit can all play in any attacking position from the midfield, and they can all also play as wingers. Suarez can interchange with Sturridge, and Mkit can even play as a holding mid in a pinch (apparently where he plays for his NT). He has the pace and energy to play box-to-box, something we have been missing badly since Gerrard lost his legs.
Without Suarez:
------------Sturridge/Borini
Cou-------------Mkhit--------Downing/Aspas/Sturridge
Obviously not as good without Suarez, but still a good front 4.
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 12:29 am
Posted on 6/18/13 at 1:59 am to LSUSOBEAST1
Don't like his touch in tight spaces for that price tag. He does have great pace though
Posted on 6/18/13 at 9:02 am to lynxcat
Shakhtar v Chelsea replay coming on Fox soccer right now for anyone who wants to check out Mikhitaryan
Posted on 6/18/13 at 9:59 am to xavierTIGER
Mkhitaryan coming in spells the end for Shelvey IMO. Henderson will also find himself on the bench. Rodgers making it his team.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:08 am to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:
end for Shelvey IMO.
Yep. He and Spearing are no better than mid-table or even Championship quality.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:07 am to xavierTIGER
quote:
Shakhtar v Chelsea replay coming on Fox soccer right now for anyone who wants to check out Mikhitaryan
Just finished watching, and I didn't think his touch was terrible. A lot of the mistakes in tight spaces came with poor decision making IMO, either from trying to dribble into tight space when an easy one touch pass could be made, or trying to make a tough pass when he had room to control the ball. One thing's for sure, he can make good runs and he has a nose for goal. I think he and Suarez (or Aspas if Luis is gone) would play off Sturridge very well with Coutinho picking out passes. And of course that front will be very fluid, so it's difficult to really tack on a specific formation.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:06 pm to glassman
Shelvey is a good player, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting at a big club one day. He has the best passing range of any U21 player I've ever seen. He just needs a manager who can control his emotions on the pitch.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:08 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
In FIFA, I got hired by Liverpool and bought Draxler and Isco. BR should do that, IMO.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:10 pm to hendersonshands
That would be nice. Is Draxler tipped to leave Schalke any time soon?
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:11 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Some stuff leaked not long ago that Dortmund put in a bid for him but everyone except Draxler denied that. He signed a longterm contract not long ago, I'm sure there's a buyout clause in there somewhere.
Schalke has a chance to be pretty damn good in the near future if they hold on to everyone.
Schalke has a chance to be pretty damn good in the near future if they hold on to everyone.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:15 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
I'm sure there's a buyout clause in there somewhere
Can't remember what it was, but I remember thinking it was outrageously high for a player his age
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:39 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:
Very, very far from a waste. If bought, he would immediately slot into the first team and would be a huge boost.
I agree, but that's not what I was getting at.
quote:
waste for 20mil
I would be very unhappy if we paid 20 for him. If we were throwing down 15 I'd warm up to the idea, but as of now I'd be very unhappy dropping that much on a player who I don't think is worth that price tag.
I will admit I hadn't seen that video. It makes him look like a superstar. I know he has great pace but his touch (in the videos I've seen) has been pretty bad. Pace like that is almost totally negated with a bad touch. The two skills go hand and hand with each other.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:25 pm to BleedPurpleGold
On the Andy Carroll front:
@DavidGoldWHU 4m
We managed to bring Andy's medical forward to this evening and I am delighted to informed you that he has passed with flying colours.
David Gold is the Chairman of WHU.
@DavidGoldWHU 4m
We managed to bring Andy's medical forward to this evening and I am delighted to informed you that he has passed with flying colours.
David Gold is the Chairman of WHU.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 5:06 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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Henderson will also find himself on the bench.
I don't necessarily believe this ... I think Hendo still has more surprises up his sleeve.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 5:29 pm to McRebel42
I think he's definitely got a future here, but for now, Stevie G's in his spot. Still he's a great asset to have on the bench because of his ability to play almost anywhere
Posted on 6/18/13 at 5:42 pm to TheZaba
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Stevie G's in his spot.
Kinda what I was thinking ...
I also would pefer to loan Shelvey off first before we sold him.
JMO (I know many disagree) but I think his potential is greater than Joe Allen's and we should sell Joey off first.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 9:17 pm to McRebel42
Disagree. If Mkhit joins, Henderson immediately goes to the bench. At least until Stevie retires.
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