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re: Liverpool FC 2012/13 Season Long Thread

Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:51 pm to
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:51 pm to
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BTW, when will Liverpool wise up, and rehire Rafa? He knows what he's doing, better than 90+% of the coaching world, and he loves the club. I don't get it.



Liverpool have found their manager for the next 5+ years. Rafa is brilliant, and I don't think many of us would complain if he came back, but it was just time for the club to move forward. The owners were in a horrible position and Rafa just wasn't in the question. Take over with Woy, fire him. Hire Dalglish (previous manager), fire him. Imagine the backlash if Rafa would have failed.

Anyway, I thought you would like Rodgers since he is a student of the Spanish game. Pretty sure he would do anything to be Pep for a day.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:01 pm to
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Anyway, I thought you would like Rodgers since he is a student of the Spanish game. Pretty sure he would do anything to be Pep for a day.
It's not about Rodgers, and I'll admit, I haven't been following closely, as I've been lulled into non interest from Rafa's waning years and the subsequent further nothingness. Whether Rodgers is a Spanish game disciple or not, is not important, I just feel they're in a big sleep. Again, it may be, that he's got a great hole to get out of, and better someone who is local. I don't know. All I see is the 'being Liverpool' BS, and I can't glean from that what his style is. That said, maybe the Spanish style is not right going forward.

Then again, what is the Spanish style? Attacking and defending in the contrary's side is something which can be done a myriad of ways.

We're already seeing morphs.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 11:03 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:06 pm to
I mentioned the other day, If I was MCFC... I'd dump Mancini and hire Rafa... He would have them competing in Europe from day 1
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:08 pm to
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We're already seeing morphs.


You mean like how Barça under Tito plays differently than Barça under Pep?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:10 pm to
May I add, Rafa didn't play what is now known as the Spanish style. They defended in the front third, but were not attacking, whatsoever.

Rafa showed the translator how to play.

The big thing with Rafa is he is an American type guy. He is all about heart and soul. The famous 'buy in'. He won with shite and against the odds. Which has it's 'desgaste'. Burnout? I don't know the exact translation.

He was let go before he still got what he wanted, even though it was evident that the 'desgaste' was too heavy to bear.

Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:12 pm to
Previous ownership did their best to put the club in a pit. And the new owners haven't done much as of yet to separate themselves from the previous wanks.

The Being Liverpool is something I hate. Gimmicky bullshite by American owners to gain market presence.

If Rodgers' time at Swansea is any indicator, the Spanish style seems like it can work, especially if LFC can get back into Europe (the ultimate prize, as Rafa showed - European results > league results (it's a shame really)). He has essentially deployed a 4-5-1 so far, and we continue to be linked with more midfielders than forwards. He wants to mimic what Pep has done. The only problem is 1) the money has dried up and 2) our midfielders can't find a way to score.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 11:15 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:14 pm to
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May I add, Rafa didn't play what is now known as the Spanish style.


Not at all.

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The big thing with Rafa is he is an American type guy. He is all about heart and soul. The famous 'buy in'. He won with shite and against the odds. Which has it's 'desgaste'. Burnout? I don't know the exact translation.


Nailed it. In his new book (worth a read might I add) he says how shite that CL team was and how tactically dull they were.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50245 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:14 pm to
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MCFC
would be a steamroller under Rafa.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18917 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:28 pm to
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The Being Liverpool is something I hate. Gimmicky bullshite by American owners to gain market presence.


I know this was probably Fenway Sports main goal, but I think its become more than that. It's drawn us as fans closer into the inner workings of the club, its players, and their lives. That can't be that bad of a thing.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50245 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:32 pm to
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I know this was probably Fenway Sports main goal, but I think its become more than that. It's drawn us as fans closer into the inner workings of the club, its players, and their lives. That can't be that bad of a thing.
With all due respect, BPG, it's got the ghey, big time. It's not aimed at you, but at getting more bufanda (what the hell is that thing that is like a huge scarf/flag) wavers who passively parade up and down the streets between Portland and Seattle, into it.

It is high comedy to see an army of overweight computer programmers and housewives parading down a police protected street. Really.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 11:34 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22264 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:34 pm to
I like the show... Dont really see any harm in it...
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:36 pm to
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it's got the ghey, big time.


I agree 100%. It has found its way (or should I say 'lost its way') into a sea of bad television
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 11:41 pm
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18917 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:40 pm to
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It is high comedy to see an army of overweight computer programmers and housewives parading down a police protected street. Really.


Shouldn't that be more of an indictment of American soccer supporters than Liverpool and the documentary?
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18917 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:40 pm to
I don't get it either. It's gay because Liverpool has American supporters?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50245 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:44 pm to
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Shouldn't that be more of an indictment of American soccer supporters than Liverpool and the documentary?
The Boston, or wherever, parade, on behalf of Liverpool was much the same, with some stateside scousers thrown in.

It's anti-natural.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18917 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:46 pm to
You would hate New Orleans.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50245 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:47 pm to
This is the CLASSIC misunderstanding of USA is like Europe. It is not, and never will be.

This is not bad, this is not good, it's simply the way things are.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50245 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:48 pm to
I've been to New Orleans, twice, and it is different. Different from Europe, different from the USA. I comprehend.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18917 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:48 pm to
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This is the CLASSIC misunderstanding of USA is like Europe.


I didn't say the US is like Europe.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18917 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:49 pm to
We have parades. You think parades are gay. Therefore, you think New Orleans is gay?
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