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re: Semi Auto pistol: Safety or No Safety
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:26 pm to fisherbm1112
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:26 pm to fisherbm1112
quote:I should have total say. I deal with nothing but bad events. No one wanted any of these events to occur. They still did. You and the rest of the no safety gun nuts have no idea what you're saying. You just can't grasp it. You'd rather cling to a tag line repeated by gun people over and over enough to make it seem like gospel.
It is apparent that you should have no say in then argument since you don't even practice the most simple form of firearm responsibility you probably should not have any at all.
quote:I'm not even talking about kids.
When my weapons go to the camp and other places without a safe the ammunition is locked in a separate location especially with kids around
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:29 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
I should have total say. I deal with nothing but bad events. No one wanted any of these events to occur. They still did.
You seem to be letting an unfortunate event cloud your judgement on what was the real cause of the incident.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:30 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
I should have total say. I deal with nothing but bad events. No one wanted any of these events to occur. They still did. You and the rest of the no safety gun nuts have no idea what you're saying. You just can't grasp it. You'd rather cling to a tag line repeated by gun people over and over enough to make it seem like gospel.
Are you fricking retarded? Do you only read parts of a statement that you want to see? Where have I ever said that I am part of a no safety club. I know exactly what I am saying. If you deal with bad events all the time then you would understand that just a safety is not a lifeline. What can I not grasp?
quote:
I'm not even talking about kids.
Neither am I. They are just the little extra push that makes me be even more careful.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:32 pm to Carson123987
quote:
You fricker I was coming to put that, even though I agree with him
as do I, there is a reason I side for cocked and locked rather than just having one in the chamber
palm safety was a big selling point for me with my Springfield EMP
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:33 pm to kkille1lsu
quote:
You seem to be letting an unfortunate event cloud your judgement on what was the real cause of the incident.
That who ever this happened to was an incapable human being that should not have been around a squirt gun. I understand accidents happen, but with firearms they are avoidable.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:38 pm to fisherbm1112
quote:If so, you are the first to notice.
Are you fricking retarded?
quote:No, but I'm pretty sure you do.
Do you only read parts of a statement that you want to see?
quote:That's the implication of your postings.
Where have I ever said that I am part of a no safety club.
quote:Never said it was.
If you deal with bad events all the time then you would understand that just a safety is not a lifeline.
quote:Unintended misuse
What can I not grasp?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:41 pm to AlxTgr
Am I invited to y'alls wedding? 
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:42 pm to Five0
quote:Does your gun have a safety?
Am I invited to y'alls wedding?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:42 pm to Five0
quote:
Am I invited to y'alls wedding?
What kind of gift will you bring?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:47 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Unintended misuse
I know exactly what this is. My point is that a safety is not going to stop that if you don't follow the precautions that you obviously don't.
quote:
That's the implication of your postings.
Are those the same ones that say I own handguns with safety's?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:48 pm to fisherbm1112
quote:By others, not by me.
My point is that a safety is not going to stop that if you don't follow the precautions that you obviously don't.
quote:I can't help it that you post contradictions.
Are those the same ones that say I own handguns with safety's?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:49 pm to AlxTgr
I don't have problems with safety's being on guns. I have problems with people who think they are the thing that will save them from an accidental discharge.
That's why I say it's a crutch.
I'll say this, just based on this thread, I would never want to be around you with a gun. I'd shoot with everyone you're arguing with though, safety or not. Because they have a fundamental understanding that a gun is an inanimate object. You control it. It doesn't fire till somebody makes it do so. So I suspect they are as religious as I am about treating every gun as if it were loaded. That's the only real 'safety' and to claim it's not is irresponsible and ignorant.
That's why I say it's a crutch.
I'll say this, just based on this thread, I would never want to be around you with a gun. I'd shoot with everyone you're arguing with though, safety or not. Because they have a fundamental understanding that a gun is an inanimate object. You control it. It doesn't fire till somebody makes it do so. So I suspect they are as religious as I am about treating every gun as if it were loaded. That's the only real 'safety' and to claim it's not is irresponsible and ignorant.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:53 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
I can't help it that you post contradictions.
What in the hell are you talking about? Go read my post, I said that a safety should not be the reason you do or do not purchase a firearm. If you are not comfortable around a firearm without a safety then you probably shouldn't be comfortable around one with a safety.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:56 pm to faxis
quote:Oh no. Now you did it.
an accidental discharge.
quote:You're missing it yet again. I am not worried about me firing the gun.
I'll say this, just based on this thread, I would never want to be around you with a gun. I'd shoot with everyone you're arguing with though, safety or not. Because they have a fundamental understanding that a gun is an inanimate object. You control it. It doesn't fire till somebody makes it do so. So I suspect they are as religious as I am about treating every gun as if it were loaded. That's the only real 'safety' and to claim it's not is irresponsible and ignorant
quote:It is. Sorry.
That's the only real 'safety' and to claim it's not is irresponsible and ignorant.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:58 pm to fisherbm1112
quote:Then the safety has no use.
What in the hell are you talking about? Go read my post, I said that a safety should not be the reason you do or do not purchase a firearm.
quote:That's just stupid.
If you are not comfortable around a firearm without a safety then you probably shouldn't be comfortable around one with a safety.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:59 pm to AlxTgr
I think we've spotted the problem.
You don't have very high reading comprehension.
You just agreed with me that depending on a mechanical safety is a crutch.
You don't have very high reading comprehension.
You just agreed with me that depending on a mechanical safety is a crutch.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:04 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Then the safety has no use.
Actually it does. On some firearms they are necessary because it disengages the firing pin in instances where the firearm is dropped then it will not go off. Firearms without safeties have internal parts in place for that same reason. As I said before I have no problem with them, however their existence will not stop be from buying a firearm.
quote:
That's just stupid.
That's just part of being a responsible gun owner, and being comfortable around firearms and keeping your head in the game when others are shooting around you.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:05 pm to faxis
quote:
I think we've spotted the problem.
That he can't be wrong?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:05 pm to faxis
quote:Yeah, you go with that one
You don't have very high reading comprehension.
quote:More gun culture lingo to make up for small thinking. We should catalog these meaningless phrases you weirdos use. It would be fun and might save some lives.
You just agreed with me that depending on a mechanical safety is a crutch.
A mechanical safety is a safety. It does what it does. How it could be used as a crutch I'll never know.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:08 pm to fisherbm1112
quote:You act as if these are the same. They are not. They may prevent the same eventuality, but that's not on purpose. A safety prevents the gun from firing when the trigger is pulled. The internal mechanisms prevent a different type of discharge.
Actually it does. On some firearms they are necessary because it disengages the firing pin in instances where the firearm is dropped then it will not go off. Firearms without safeties have internal parts in place for that same reason. As I said before I have no problem with them, however their existence will not stop be from buying a firearm.
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