Time between marking and logging property

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My dad is a forester and posts on here from time to time. I will ask him.
Typically it depends on if it has been bid out yet. If so then it depends on how busy the logger is, and if the mills need the wood or not. There will also usually be a time limit for the logger to get in and out.

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There will also usually be a time limit for the logger to get in and out

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I don't think it will take them very long to cut as all of the flagged areas are on fairly flat land. It has been thinned twice before we picked it up, so this will be a clear cut.

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That is not necessarily true. When I was a kid I would sit in a loader after the job shut down and see deer in the set.

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Let's hope so

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I sure hope they don't wait til October, that will kill any hopes of seeing deer this year. They flagged about 1/2 of the property.

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no, I promise, it won't

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LoneStarTiger

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Thanks for the info

It just sucks waiting for this to happen because we aren't doing any improvements (spraying trails, cleaning shooting lanes) until they cut. If they don't cut it til right before, during or after hunting season, all of those stands will be a pain in the arse to hunt.

Good advice Lone Star.
Good Luck!

We had agreements to cut where the term on the contract was 3 months and some where it went all of the way up to 3 years.

On a piece of property, depending what type(swamp, pine trees, upland hardwood, etc) of woods they are, you might have to wait for a dry spell. This month is very hard to get out any timber from swampy sites because it rains so much and the clay is as slippery as ice when it does. Same shite happens in the piney woods. The woods may be okay, but the roads turn to shite with a few minutes of rain.

A few foresters, or timber buyers if they dont hire out the job, will come out and do a survey of the tract and then bid after that. Some will come back and flag or paint specific trees in a select cut, but most of the time they just tell the loggers what size and species to cut. They would paint every tree to be cut normally in a lump sum purchase. They can under or over estimate the amount of timber and screw you or themselves over doing this. It is pretty risky, but done all over.

There are also contracts that are called pay as cut. They differ from lump sum, because you only get paid for what they cut. These aren't as risky, but you wouldn't get paid as high a percentage as if it was lump sum because they might not be able to cut all of it at one time and moving loggers around is expensive. This is normally done on smaller pieces of land or land that they dont have a lot of time to cut.

What did they come flag?

Property lines are sometimes flagged by a survey crew, and sometimes done by the timber buyer himself. If it was the survey crew, you could be waiting a while(possibly 1 yr). If it was the buyer, they should be moving in within 3 months. If the latter, they are probably on another site if yours is wet and are waiting to put a logger on it. You dont really have a big tract of land there, so there should only be one logger working it.

They also have to choose which logger to put where. If they know that it is gonna be wet and under 10 loads a day are coming out, they will put a slow logger. If they have an awesome site with big timber, they will put one or more good loggers on it.

We had a section by Swayze Lake that we had 4 loggers on. It was so nasty that they were always breaking down. All for loggers combined were getting MAYBE 40 loads a day. That is a big maybe because it was wet as hell this time last year. I had to run a motor grader over it just about every other day to get it to dry up.

We also had perfect sites where we only put one logger, but they got out 65 loads a day They are the best and fastest crew that I have ever even heard of. I would say the average would be under 20 for a decent logger. It was awesome to see them working. They had probably 15 trucks of their own and had contract trucks running too.


Basically, you are at the mercy of whoever bought the timber unless it specifically says otherwise on the contract. We never cut hardwood timber that people were hunting during the winter, and would never mess with or get in the way of someone trying to do something. A good bit of the sales are by recommendation and word of mouth


I tried to get a decent amount of info there so you could maybe get an idea of what was going on. Any other questions, just ask

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We also had perfect sites where we only put one logger, but they got out 65 loads a day

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Holy crap

I'd only sell that guy lump sum sales, because I wouldn't want to deal with that many loads on a pay as cut settlement

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Holy crap

I'd only sell that guy lump sum sales, because I wouldn't want to deal with that many loads on a pay as cut settlement

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That is what we would do. Trying to keep track of that many drivers and their tickets is a huge PITA.

FWIW, we always had someone watching the gates on those big jobs counting loads and stopping traffic if need be. We would also periodically check trucks to see if they were loaded correctly and how many logs/load they had.

Those guys that cut that much are very well known in the logging community specifically from Marksville to Thibodaux. They are the best in the biz at cutting in the swamp. Keep in mind that this was in the sharkey clam found mainly in the basin so it is no easy task. These guys are very hard to keep busy, but they primarily cut for the company I was working for(it isn't a big MNC).

Pine trees are different, any jack-leg with some new equipment and a little skill can churn out the loads. I have never heard of any pine tree cutting outfit cutting that many loads though

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I tend to disagree. They cut whenever they want, especially if the price ticks up a notch and your track is on flat terrain when it has been raining. These mofos cut on our lease during the rut(Xmas/New Years)

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You must have some idiots cutting your property. Unless it is a piece of property owned by a huge timber company that they dont lease out, there is no reason for anyone to do that. Most of our properties came from recommendations and word of mouth. No way a reputable timber buying company would do that. What you probably had was the logger bought the timber himself. Then, they cut it whenever they aren't on any other jobs.

Also, flat terrain is mostly bad when it rains. Water sits. If it has loamy-sandy soil, and a slight slope, it will drain fast.