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RCDfan1950
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Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.


Just watched David Plouffe on Fox News...damning interview. Chris Wallace nailed him on three lethal issues.

1. Will the President order a directive that if any of his staff knows anything about the leaks...they must come forward immediately? Like former President Bush did re the Valerie Plame investigation. Stutter...no answer!

2. Will the President go on record - like President Bush did - and answer question re his own possible involvement in any leak? Answer...stutter...no answer...defer to the US Attorney General's investigation. (That would be Holder, who is on the verge of being held in contempt of Congress for stalling and obstruction re Fast n Furious).

3.When Obama was Senator, in regard to the Abramoff case, Obama went on record demanding a Special Prosecutor, so as to ensure the integrity of our system and keep the trust of the American public. Plouffe...stutter...sweat profusely...and defer to the Holder appointees' *investigation* . Wallace points out that this case is far more serious than the Abramoff one...soo...why wouldn't Obama want to uphold his own standards of integrity, in such a serious breach? More stutter...defer to ongoing *investigation*.

I knew that Scooter Libby/Abramoff partisan witch hunts would come back to bite the Dems. Here it is. No way that Obama can ride this out; especially if he wins in Nov., and the Tea Party runs both houses of Congress.

Somebody on that Security Staff...is going under the bus. Guess they'll draw straws.

Sen. Lieberman is on now...demanding a Special Prosecutor. Ball is rolling. Downhill.

God Almighty, what a mess.








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jamboybarry
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Impeachment imminent, if he stays.








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ottothewise
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Like former President Bush did re the Valerie Plame investigation.


Bush did not turn over Cheney for impeachment, even after Cheney admitted it was he who ok'd outing Plame. Soon as the press pointed out that Cheney was a criminal, Bush pretended he knew all along and that Cheney HAD BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION BY BUSH.

Bush either lied to start with, or more likely, lied after the fact.








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NC_Tigah
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Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.
Somehow I don't see the likes of Harry Reid, Babs Boxer, Durbin, Kerry, Leahy, etc. agreeing with you






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RCDfan1950
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re: Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.


Come on Otto...be honest. Bush ORDERED his Staff to come forward if they knew anything. Bush TESTIFIED, on record, as to any personal involvement. If Obama was honest...he'd do the same.

And lastly, but most importantly...the Special Prosecutor KNEW who outed Plame, 3 months into the investigation...and it wasn't Dick Cheney.

Corruption in high places. The highest. Real corruption.







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Didn't Richard Armitage out Plame? Hasn't that been definitively proven?
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In his July 12 column in the Washington Post, Robert Novak had already partly exposed this paranoid myth by stating plainly that nobody had leaked anything, or outed anyone, to him. On the contrary, it was he who approached sources within the administration and the CIA and not the other way around. But now we have the final word on who diddisclose the name and occupation of Valerie Plame, and it turns out to be someone whose opposition to the Bush policy in Iraq has—like Robert Novak's—long been a byword in Washington. It is particularly satisfying that this admission comes from two of the journalists—Michael Isikoff and David Corn—who did the most to get the story wrong in the first place and the most to keep it going long beyond the span of its natural life.
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As most of us have long suspected, the man who told Novak about Valerie Plame was Richard Armitage, Colin Powell's deputy at the State Department and, with his boss, an assiduous underminer of the president's war policy. (His and Powell's—and George Tenet's—fingerprints are all over Bob Woodward's "insider" accounts of post-9/11 policy planning, which helps clear up another nonmystery: Woodward's revelation several months ago that he had known all along about the Wilson-Plame connection and considered it to be no big deal.)






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Bush either lied to start with, or more likely, lied after the fact.


Seeing as to how you are speculating with this statement (eventhough there is probably a lot of truth to it) all politicians lie to hopefully cover their ass.

The OP is talking about Obama here, he's talking about your boy. Keep your comments centered on the present admin. No doubt deflection is your best suit and it fits you very well.






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RCDfan1950
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NC_Tigah
Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.

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Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.

Somehow I don't see the likes of Harry Reid, Babs Boxer, Durbin, Kerry, Leahy, etc. agreeing with you


They'll be out of power by this time next year, NC. And even if they block the passing of Impeachment like with Clinton, the public evidence will be damning enough to discredit Obama. Book it...Obama knew, and okay'd these leaks. Chicago politics. He's all in. A rogue in the Oval Office.






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Godfather1
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Sen. Lieberman is on now...demanding a Special Prosecutor.


Looks like their mistreatment of him is coming back to bite them in the arse as well.






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RCDfan1950
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Bush's honorable and 'TRANSPARENT' actions are very pertinent in this situation, HT. I'm fine with the precedent of his honest cooperation being referenced re the current the Security Leak scandal.

But this scandal is lethal to Obama. The only thing in question is whether Obama APPROVED the leak from someone on his Security Staff. Or if he *declassified* the leaked info. Wallace asked Plouffe that question...THREE TIMES...no answer. Can you imagine Obama having to answer that one, under oath?

The crux is this. Whether whomever - on that Staff - is picked to take the serious jail time fall for leaking classified information, will get pissed and roll over against Obama. Either Obama (who has power to declassify) declassified the info (then no crime, but a Presidential scandal), or he didn't, meaning a serious crime.

I'm tellin ya...Obama has really stepped in it with this one. I see no way out...but that the RHINOS go mushy. Even if they do...the Tea Party won't. Unmovable object...unstoppable force. The Tea Party will prevail.







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RCDfan1950
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Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.

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Sen. Lieberman is on now...demanding a Special Prosecutor.



Looks like their mistreatment of him is coming back to bite them in the arse as well.


I've always liked Leiberman, GF; though I disagree on some policy...he's an honest man. That's why they 'mistreat' him...won't go dirty.







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ottothewise
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Bush ORDERED his Staff to come forward if they knew anything.


this is so germans. you are now in denial.

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Libby says that Cheney gave him permission to disclose classified information.


Cheney was guilty of the crimes you are discussing.







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ottothewise
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Homesick, RCD starts off with inviting us to compare this latest, to Bush's Plame situation. So I do.

I dont know anything about this current case yet.

As for Novak's claims, and Armitage's, they both came after Cheney admitted his guilt.



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Godfather1
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the Special Prosecutor KNEW who outed Plame, 3 months into the investigation


You should have "outed" in parentheses.

It's not like this bitch was some kind of female James Bond. She was a deskbound CIA employee who apparently had few qualms about blabbing around Washington to anyone who would listen whom she was employed by.

Hell, she was so upset about being "outed", she posed for a Vanity Fair photo shoot right after the alleged "outing".

Don't know about you, but if I fear my life is in imminent danger because of an "outing" of what I do for a living, what's the first thing I'm going to do? Pose for a globally circulated magazine and give the bad guys a face to put with the name.

Yeah, right. "Outed" my ass.






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Godfather1
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I dont know anything about this current case yet.


And I'd bet you don't WANT to know, either.

At least not until you've had time to try and spin it, anyway.






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re: Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.


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Bush did not turn over Cheney for impeachment,



But Bush did it......


God, you people sound like a bunch of bleeding vaginas. If it was so wrong when Bush did it, then why is it ok that Obama does it?

Oh, I get it, because you are a fricking partisan hack.






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Holden Caulfield
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outing Plame.

Talk about someone who has enjoyed her 15 minutes of outing.

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Bush
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Bush
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Bush

Deflection, thy name is Otto






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RCDfan1950
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re: Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.


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ottothewise
Wow...Obama is done. Impeachment imminent, if he stays.

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Bush ORDERED his Staff to come forward if they knew anything.



this is so germans. you are now in denial.

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Libby says that Cheney gave him permission to disclose classified information.



Cheney was guilty of the crimes you are discussing.






No, Otto...the crime that I am discussing is the leaking of serious national security classified (unless Obama declassified them) secrets. And by someone in the room, on Obama's Security Staff.

Do you really believe that someone would be fool enough to do that, WITHOUT Obama's (plausible deniability) approval? Me in denial?

Bottom line...IF the leaked info is classified...someone is going down bigtime. If if aint (classified), the only one who could make it so, is Obama.

Issa should immediately send out subpeonaes, and start nailing the scoundrels down; averting ANOTHER Holder coverup/run out the clock!







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TheDoc
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This will be swept under the rug and you know

The American people are more concerned with 'merican idol.






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RCDfan1950
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They took it to the fame and fortune bank, GF. No telling what they got for the movie rights. Disgusting.

And you're right...no harm really done from those yahoos. But this time...it's WRECKED our intelligence ability. You'd have to be Stan Laurel to enter into any kind of covert activity with the US Intelligence apparatus...knowing that you're name and action might be leaked to the press as a policy success...for electoral advantage.

He's taking us down. Thank God the Tea Party knows it. I pray that we can stay lawful...but since Obama is pissing on the Law.... HE justifies taking the civility gloves off, and fighting fire with fire.







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