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ESPN Mock 6.0 (AD and Sullinger)
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:25 pm
Obviously, they have us picking Davis with the first pick but at 10 they have us going a different way than most. Here's their explanation..
"We've been assuming the Hornets would try to fill their hole at point guard here with a player like Damian Lillard or Kendall Marshall, and they might, but the last few days the buzz has been around Sullinger here. I could see why the Hornets would think pairing Davis and Sullinger would be ideal. They complement each other."
I am the only that doesn't like this at all...
"We've been assuming the Hornets would try to fill their hole at point guard here with a player like Damian Lillard or Kendall Marshall, and they might, but the last few days the buzz has been around Sullinger here. I could see why the Hornets would think pairing Davis and Sullinger would be ideal. They complement each other."
I am the only that doesn't like this at all...
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 12:26 pm
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Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:27 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
I don't like Sullinger.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:28 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
An OSU fan told me that Sullinger is a fat, lazy piece of shite with a horrible attitude. Do not want.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:30 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
I just don't see us drafting AD and a PF. AD and a center, maybe, but a PF would be way too much redundancy. Maybe if someone falls into our lap, but I wouldn't be upset with Sullinger.
That said, Sullinger wasn't even brought in with the bigs to workout, so I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.
That said, Sullinger wasn't even brought in with the bigs to workout, so I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:32 pm to Jester
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I just don't see us drafting AD and a PF.
This is my view as well.
But I like Sullinger as an NBA 4. Just now that we get Davis, I don't see a need to go after another 4.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:39 pm to ScoopAndScore
I agree. Power forward seems to be our deepest position so I can't see us drafting someone in the top ten to backup Davis. However, if we do go in the PF direction for whatever reason, I see us picking up a guy like Moultrie who could possibly slide over and play some center. Plus Monty really raved about Moultrie.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:39 pm to tehchampion140
I don't know if I get the Sullinger/Davis pairing.
I get that Sullinger is a pretty good low post scorer, and Davis is a very good frontcourt defender...
But I don't see either being able to play C in the short term. Davis can probably do it in a few years if he adds about 30 lbs. Sullinger definitely has the girth at 280ish and the post moves, but he'd be probably about 4 inches shorter than say, Andrew Bynum. I think he's shorter than Okafor, and Ok has problems defending bigger guys.
Take that into account that he is definitely a "below the rim" type of player and an average at best defender.
Someone sell me on this.
I get that Sullinger is a pretty good low post scorer, and Davis is a very good frontcourt defender...
But I don't see either being able to play C in the short term. Davis can probably do it in a few years if he adds about 30 lbs. Sullinger definitely has the girth at 280ish and the post moves, but he'd be probably about 4 inches shorter than say, Andrew Bynum. I think he's shorter than Okafor, and Ok has problems defending bigger guys.
Take that into account that he is definitely a "below the rim" type of player and an average at best defender.
Someone sell me on this.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:40 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
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Power forward seems to be our deepest position so I can't see us drafting someone in the top ten to backup Davis.
Is Sullinger the next Kevin Love or the next Big Baby? Love would be playing next to Davis, not backing him up.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:41 pm to Fun Bunch
Also from the OSU fan, Sullinger is very soft and gives no effort on the defensive end. Sounds like a horrible fit for our team.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:42 pm to TigerinATL
I feel like Sullinger's ceiling will be a Big Baby type player. I don't want to use the #10 on him AT ALL.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:45 pm to tehchampion140
He's a better shooter, and a little taller than Glen. His ceiling is higher than him. But id rather look elsewhere at ten as well
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:48 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
I just don't see what would be the point of drafting 2 guys at the same position.
Especially with Sullinger's height. What would we even do with him?
Especially with Sullinger's height. What would we even do with him?
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:52 pm to RonFNSwanson
Don't agree with Sullinger, but I have a feeling we don't go PG. Jack isn't the best PG in the world, but put enough talent around him and I think he's good enough to lead the team deep in the playoffs. And I don't think he'll be that pricey to keep, maybe he'll stick around in that MLE range, maybe less.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:53 pm to THRILLHO
I don't think we will actually draft Sullinger. It's just ESPN.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:54 pm to RonFNSwanson
Especially when you already have serviceable players at 4/5 like Smith, Ayon and Okafor. And then adding Davis.
If you're going to add someone at 4 or 5, add someone with length and potential, like Moultrie, PJ3, Drummond (ug, but if he's there...), or even John Henson.
Personally, I still prefer adding a scorer at 1, 2, or 3...but length never hurts, and Monty STILL references how we got dominated in the lowpost versus the Lakers.
If you're going to add someone at 4 or 5, add someone with length and potential, like Moultrie, PJ3, Drummond (ug, but if he's there...), or even John Henson.
Personally, I still prefer adding a scorer at 1, 2, or 3...but length never hurts, and Monty STILL references how we got dominated in the lowpost versus the Lakers.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:56 pm to THRILLHO
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Jack isn't the best PG in the world, but put enough talent around him and I think he's good enough to lead the team deep in the playoffs
I agree. I would like Rivers if he could be a combo and back up Jack and Gordon. I think I'd rather trade the pick for some kind of veteran help than get Sullinger, though
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:56 pm to MikeTheTiger2893
It's a great idea and I hope it happens. AD would most likely be an incredible influence on Sully.
And no I'm not worried about Chandler and Curry ordeal in CHI - AD is a can't miss ready-to-play professional. Both of those guys were crapshoots who needed years to grow.
There's no reason why both couldn't be on the court in say 2013 after we move or amnesty Okafor (and especially if we somehow still have Ariza). Anthony Davis is going to be a top 5 big in the NBA the minute he steps into the league and it's a cliche at this point but he's going to mask a lot of deficiencies of the other 4 guys on the court. If you have Ariza you're really only masking the potential deficiencies of 3 other guys.
And no I'm not worried about Chandler and Curry ordeal in CHI - AD is a can't miss ready-to-play professional. Both of those guys were crapshoots who needed years to grow.
There's no reason why both couldn't be on the court in say 2013 after we move or amnesty Okafor (and especially if we somehow still have Ariza). Anthony Davis is going to be a top 5 big in the NBA the minute he steps into the league and it's a cliche at this point but he's going to mask a lot of deficiencies of the other 4 guys on the court. If you have Ariza you're really only masking the potential deficiencies of 3 other guys.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:00 pm to MinnesotaTiger
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It's a great idea and I hope it happens. AD would most likely be an incredible influence on Sully.
Look, I get the idea that "positions" in the NBA are becoming a bit nebulous. You could trot out there AD and Okafor with the starters, and then bring Sullinger off the bench to run with AD or Smith.
And I get that you almost always take BPA in the NBA draft and need is on the backburner...
But I really feel like PF is a strength for us right now, while SCORING and ATHLETICISM is a massive concern.
Gotta upgrade the scoring at 1, backup 2, or 3.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:02 pm to THRILLHO
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Jack isn't the best PG in the world, but put enough talent around him and I think he's good enough to lead the team deep in the playoffs. And I don't think he'll be that pricey to keep, maybe he'll stick around in that MLE range, maybe less.
The problem with Jack is not where his current production level is at, it's where it will be 3-4 years when Davis is hopefully growing into a superstar level ?
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:02 pm to RonFNSwanson
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drafting 2 guys at the same position.
"positions are dead" is almost becoming a cliche but it really is true. Think of roles more than positions. Kaman is a center but he is often used like a PF in the pick and pop game. I do have doubts about how high Sullinger's ceiling is, but having Sullinger (or some other "PF") post up while Davis spaces the floor or gets ready to cut/clean up from the weak side is not 2 guys playing the same position.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 1:05 pm
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