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Best Case/Worse Case Added to Draft Express Profiles
Posted on 6/4/12 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 6/4/12 at 3:58 pm
Since everybody loves comparisons.
Davis:
Lillard:
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Davis:
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Best Case: Blake Griffin Meets Tyson Chandler
Worst Case: Taj Gibson
Lillard:
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Best Case: George Hill
Worst Case: Ronnie Price
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Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:00 pm to floridatigah
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Blake Griffin Meets Tyson Chandler
Da Fuq? Neither of those guys has a jumper
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:04 pm to floridatigah
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Best Case: Blake Griffin Meets Tyson Chandler
Horrible best case.
quote:
Best Case: George Hill
If that's it he wouldn't be a top 10 pick.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:05 pm to saintsfan92612
That could be production, not exact playing styles.
22/12 from Griffin in his first two years is pretty great. Add Chandler's overrated defense and it would make Davis a great player
22/12 from Griffin in his first two years is pretty great. Add Chandler's overrated defense and it would make Davis a great player
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:17 pm to eyeran
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22/12 from Griffin in his first two years is pretty great. Add Chandler's overrated defense and it would make Davis a great player
No offense, but coaches and players (who actually have to try to score against them) consider him a beast. Your love of blocked shots is just goofy.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:18 pm to Jester
yeah Chandler's a good defender, but Blake is as an offensive ceiling is 
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:25 pm to Jester
quote:Ok Ms Cleo
No offense, but coaches and players (who actually have to try to score against them) consider him a beast. Your love of blocked shots is just goofy.
Me thinking his defense is overrated has nothing to do with his lack of blocked shots. I just don't think he's as good as some make him out to be, defensively.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:37 pm to saintsfan92612
Why do you consider Davis offensive potential to be higher than Blake's? 
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:39 pm to eyeran
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Me thinking his defense is overrated has nothing to do with his lack of blocked shots. I just don't think he's as good as some make him out to be, defensively.
Were you not the one arguing this point a few months back? Maybe I'm mistaken. I remember the argument being that he doesn't have enough blocked shots to be an elite defender. If it wasn't you, I apologize. Most arguments I have heard against his defensive abilities were very easily dismissed.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:40 pm to floridatigah
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Why do you consider Davis offensive potential to be higher than Blake's?
Because Blake has no game outside of spot up and lobs. He absolutely does not create.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:43 pm to Jester
Blake Griffin with Tyson Chandler's defense is a sure HOFer.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:44 pm to Jester
And Davis is going to create?
Griffin has averaged 22 points on 52% shooting in his 2 year career. The number of his shots that come off assists isn't that different from most of the other bigs in the league. Who cares how he gets the points, he's an awesome offensive player and if that is how Davis turns out there then everyone should be thrilled.
Griffin has averaged 22 points on 52% shooting in his 2 year career. The number of his shots that come off assists isn't that different from most of the other bigs in the league. Who cares how he gets the points, he's an awesome offensive player and if that is how Davis turns out there then everyone should be thrilled.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:45 pm to Jester
Griffin has better footwork than people think. Still not great, but doing what he's done his first 2 years is impressive. Dude is 22 and is a career 20ppg scorer. That doesn't happen by accident
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:49 pm to Jester
quote:I know i've been in a few threads about his defense. I don't know if blocks were mentioned or not.
Were you not the one arguing this point a few months back? Maybe I'm mistaken. I remember the argument being that he doesn't have enough blocked shots to be an elite defender. If it wasn't you, I apologize. Most arguments I have heard against his defensive abilities were very easily dismissed.
I think he's a good defender. I just don't think he's elite, just my opinion. Obviously the Knicks are cutting him huge checks that say otherwise.
As far as bigs go, I think Perkins, Garnett, Howard, and Ibaka are all better. I'd put him in the next class with Noah.
This post was edited on 6/4/12 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/4/12 at 4:58 pm to floridatigah
quote:This is what i've been saying as well.
And Davis is going to create?
Griffin has averaged 22 points on 52% shooting in his 2 year career. The number of his shots that come off assists isn't that different from most of the other bigs in the league. Who cares how he gets the points, he's an awesome offensive player and if that is how Davis turns out there then everyone should be thrilled.
In the "Davis rookie year predictions" threads, people were very reasonable. Even conservative. Numbers like 11/9 were predicted. Then people lose their minds when he's compared to Griffin, who's put up awesome numbers in his first two years.
If people don't like him being compared to Griffin because of style, thats fine. But he shouldn't be compared to Garnett and defintiely not Duncan, like i've been seeing either if thats the case.
Duncan was masterful in the post from day 1.
Davis has a better offensive skillset than Griffin but neither have a post game.
If Davis manages to put up Griffin's offensive numbers while he's learning to play in the post, that would be awesome.
This post was edited on 6/4/12 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/4/12 at 5:22 pm to eyeran
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Davis has a better offensive skillset than Griffin
and this is why I hate the Griffin comparison as a best-case scenario.
Will Davis average 20/10 as a rookie...most likely no, but his ceiling as an offensive player should be higher than BG because he actually has at least some semblance of a mid-range game.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 5:30 pm to saintsfan92612
quote:I agree.
and this is why I hate the Griffin comparison as a best-case scenario.
Will Davis average 20/10 as a rookie...most likely no, but his ceiling as an offensive player should be higher than BG because he actually has at least some semblance of a mid-range game.
But just based on production, I don't think anyone would complain if Davis was putting up Griffin's offensive numbers in a few years.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 5:35 pm to floridatigah
quote:
Best Case: Blake Griffin Meets Tyson Chandler
Best Case: Kevin Garnett-Offense, Surge Ibaka-Defense
Posted on 6/4/12 at 5:37 pm to aswemajor
Now that sounds jizz-worthy 
Posted on 6/4/12 at 5:39 pm to saintsfan92612
Worst Case: Blake Griffin
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