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Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Believer504
Harvey, LA
Member since Dec 2011
379 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:09 pm
So for my college speech class I have to write a persuasive speech on how this pay for performance crap is like a bounty itself and how the rules can change. All I want to know is what you guys think of this crap. Let your anger out it'll help me.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:12 pm to
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how this pay for performance crap is like a bounty itself and how the rules can change.


Don't put that in your speech. That's a terrible sentence. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Can you clarify?
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28842 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:13 pm to
define key terms
appeal to emotion
appeal to logic
?????
profit
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64073 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:14 pm to
yeah you need to clarify what you're saying...what do you actually have to support that?

you would be inferring that the NFL is getting some sort of compensation for going after the saints
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113890 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:14 pm to
Its is incentive based, but pay for performance doesn't encourage players to hurt others, however; when you are paying defensive players based on their performance you are encouraging them to be more aggressive.

Either way, you can always argue that with a bounty no one is paying taxes. Pay for performance basically makes it "legal" and there isn't the perception that something bad is going on.
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
4818 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:14 pm to
I think most of us are all angered out. If you search through the old threads on here you would probably get a pretty good feel. I would say briefly though that I think this is a perfect example of media sensationalism. They have overblown the facts to try and get viewers. Hell, ESPN is still running a Saints category at the bottom of their ticker!
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:15 pm to
You're from Harvey, son.

You have the grammatical skills to make it through this.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28842 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:16 pm to
My birthday wish was for the Saints to get more play on ESPN and NFL Network


fricking monkey's paw
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113890 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:17 pm to
Any publicity is good publicity right?
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
4818 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Either way, you can always argue that with a bounty no one is paying taxes. Pay for performance basically makes it "legal" and there isn't the perception that something bad is going on.


I've been asking for two months and no one can answer (maybe there isn't one) but who exactly got paid and for what?? I can see where Williams and Vilma are wrong for offering the money but when are we going to hear about who actually accepted any payouts? This is ridiculous.
Posted by Believer504
Harvey, LA
Member since Dec 2011
379 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:18 pm to
I really don't know how to clarify it cause the dumb arse for a teacher was talking a bunch of bullshite that made me even more confused. I know i have to persuade the listeners into being on my side of some topic so let's start there, what would be a good topic to persuade listeners on about this whole "scandal"
Posted by Believer504
Harvey, LA
Member since Dec 2011
379 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:22 pm to
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You're from Harvey, son.

You have the grammatical skills to make it through this.



I don't know if I should take this as an insult with the son shite, or a compliment, but I was a honors and gifted and talented student so just because I'm from Harvey doesn't makes me another ignorant New Orleanian like yourself
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:23 pm to
That pay for performance is different than pay for injury. One is the equivalent to office betting while the latter is like corporate espionage. Try to convince your audience that they were not running a pay for injury program, and point to the lack of evidence to substantiate it.
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Believer504
Harvey, LA
Member since Dec 2011
379 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:27 pm to
Thank you very much.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:29 pm to
Your welcome. I hated my public speaking class. I enjoyed reading and performing speeches, but I hated being forced to listen to terrible, incoherent ones.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

just because I'm from Harvey doesn't makes me another ignorant New Orleanian like yourself

I'm from Harvey, as well.
And I'm not ignorant.

Way to be defensive, buddy.
Posted by Believer504
Harvey, LA
Member since Dec 2011
379 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:39 pm to
lol my bad. I have to be defensive on this site, I got attacked a couple of times.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64073 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:49 pm to
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Your welcome. I hated my public speaking class. I enjoyed reading and performing speeches, but I hated being forced to listen to terrible, incoherent ones.


I hated mine at LSU as well. We had to give 4 speeches. one in character (got a 98), one 5 minute (got a 95), then the group (where one stupid bitch brought us down to a 82 because she messed up her part), and the final impromptu where I pulled "what does the William Shakespeare quote Nothing comes from Nothing mean to you." Got an 80 something and a B for the class. The next guy got "why do you enjoy going to LSU" and the one in front of me got "why is it important for a child to have a father in their lives"

still bitter
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

lol my bad. I have to be defensive on this site, I got attacked a couple of times.

Crabs?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 1:05 pm to
Oh thank God I didn't have a group speech. There were only a couple of other competent people in my class. Most of them were hopeless. They couldn't follow simple instructions. If we were suppose to give a persuasive speech, they gave an informative one. If the speech was suppose to be between 3-5 minutes, they were finish in 2 minutes or they would ramble on for 10 minutes.

This one guy went before the glass with ads for grocery stores and just causally talked about what stores were the cleanest and had the best produce.
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