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Fishing Help (Florida)

Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:56 pm
Fished PP9 Kayak tournament not too long ago, and while I did have fun, I was also extremely frustrated. I found several clearish pools of water less than 3 feet deep that were filled redfish, black drum, and sheepshead. My problem is that I watched them stare at my bait and sometimes chase, but rarely bite. I changed lures, changed colors, switched to live bait, worked the lures slow, worked the lures fast, and other changes but the fish weren't interested. I read somewhere that barometric pressure could have something to do with it and I read on BCKFC that sound may be important to. Though they didn't flee when they heard me in my yak they were spooked enough to not bite. Any tips for increasing chances of a bite? I know the fish are at my honey-hole; catching them is the problem.

Also, let's say I'm in my hole and staring at a dozen fish that won't bite... What's the deepest water possible for a reasonable bowfishing shot? Thinking of bringing a bow out on the yak with me. I've never bowfished before but I know you're supposed to aim much lower than you'd expect for a hit. Is that lower distance the same for a fish 4 inches below the surface and a fish a foot below the surface or does the distance you aim below the fish lower exponentially? What's a reasonably priced bowfishing set-up? Even if I don't shoot reds from a yak I want a bow for shooting gar.

Tomorrow in the early a.m. I'll be headed to Grayton Beach, FL. I'll be fishing inshore but I'm also considering anchoring at a sandbar that's a couple hundreds yards from the beach at our house. I've never fished anything except marsh. Any tips? What are my chances of catching King Mackerel, Spanish Mackerel, Permit, or Pompano that close to shore? I'm out of my element. Will chumming help? Crabs for pompano? What about bait for other species? I'm assuming I can get an out of state license at the corner store or nearest wal-mart. Thanks for any help. I'll be sure to post pics.

Also, my dad gave me his old rubber weight to practice my baitcasting; only used spinning until recently. The rubber thingy is great for not getting caught on anything until I started catching the dog every time I'd reel the weight across the grass.



TIA
Posted by Boats n Hose
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:59 pm to
Only thing I can comment on is that chumming will definitely attract sharks
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Only thing I can comment on is that chumming will definitely attract sharks

I'm cool with that. Good pictures and some are good eating. :googlesFLregulations&limits:
Posted by Boats n Hose
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:02 pm to
No doubt, not saying its a bad thing. Just letting you know
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:03 pm to
Cobia?
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:06 pm to
Right time of year, but I doubt you'll be able to spot any from a yak unless they swim right on top of you. I'd keep a reasonable distance between some big boats and sling some eels

eta: you'll see them trolling around/not far past the sand bar scanning from the tuna towers. Also, if you want to get into the pompano i'd try throwing some sand fleas
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:11 pm to
Obviously I know nothing. I'll buy some eel lures just in case I see one. Guessing tarpon is a no go?

Sand crab/flea for pompano? Have to catch them or they can be bought? Are the fish rare or do I have a chance? Do they bite artificial too?
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:16 pm to
People use both but I would throw the sand fleas- they can be bought. The only time I have caught pompano is trolling the pass in orange beach, so I don't really have much knowledge on them
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 8:37 am to
I have been watching people fishing for cobia all week overt here in Destin out around the second sand bar, but they all have towers. also people are catching pompano from the beach.
This post was edited on 4/10/12 at 8:38 am
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 12:33 pm to
Looking at your line. The red line might be spooking them in that clear water. Try to tie on a fluorocarbon leader.

If all else fails, come down to Louisiana--the fishing is fine here!
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 12:43 pm to
All the fishing I've ever done has been in Port Fourchon with moss green braid. I'm in Florida on vacation and a stranger in a foreign land. Need info on mackerel, etc.

If not; what would the guys back home recommend for a bowfishing bow?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 12:49 pm to
dammit:

I'll try to help. You definately want to change that line or use a leader. Red becomes invisible at deeper water that you will be fishing.

If the won't bite go smaller on your bait.

For spanish get some of these and reel fast and make sure you have a swivel.

Cripple herring
This post was edited on 4/10/12 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 6:55 pm to
Thanks for the help guys. Had a good trip for the most part. Unfortunately, I was involved in a traffic accident on the way home so my car is banged up pretty bad and the kayak is pretty badly damaged. I'm going to try to get it fixed and hopefully won't have to buy a new one (cannot do that anytime soon).



I'm bumping to re-ask if anyone has any good suggestions for a bowfishing set-up?
and
Has anyone on here got their scuba certification from Seven Seas in BR?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:44 pm to
I have no bowfishing advice, but have to say that is a damn nice mess of fish...wish I was close enough to salt water to get into kayak fishing....
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 7:15 am to
Great pics man. I also have never bow fished, so Im no help, but thanks for sharing pics

Looks like you know how to load a ride down. I bet a wreck did get your yak, sorry bout that bro.
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 8:17 am to
The bowfishing setups I have used are the browning barracudas. They worked pretty well.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 9:57 am to
I MUCH prefer a recurve for bowfishing. I like mine around 45-50lbs. The best setup will vary depending on what kind of fish you're after. I always preferred a reel setup like a zebco 808 or one of the now available reels made specifically for bowfishing. If I were fishing for giant fish like alligator gar I'd got with a retriever with a bottle.

And yes, the deeper the fish is, the lower you have to aim. And it all varies according to how far away they are, which changes the angle. After a little practice, it gets fairly instinctive though. Practice shooting at targets you pick out on the bottom at different depths.

And nice Dobie. I have one too.
This post was edited on 4/17/12 at 10:00 am
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 10:05 am to
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