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Grass Seed - Seeking advice from those w/ experience

Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
Guadalajara
Member since Nov 2006
931 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:07 pm
Just bought zenith zoysia seed to replace rye grass when it dies off. I spread the rye seed with no prep work and didn't cover or water it last fall and it came up fine.

The zoysia bag has instructions a page long about prepping the ground and covering the seed 1/4" of topsoil and then covering everything with straw. It also says water it daily for 30 days. Is all of this absolutely necessary? Or will I get a fine stand by simply spreading it and doing nothing else? Looks like major rains are coming to help jump start it.

FYI - The area is weed-free with no turf grass, other than the rye. I mowed it this weekend, so all that remains is the rye and a small amount of mulched leaves. It is relatively flat and should not wash, especially with the rye in place. It gets morning sun and should not dry out quickly, especially in Spring.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:08 pm to
rake and water.
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
Guadalajara
Member since Nov 2006
931 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:09 pm to
What will raking do, other than make my back ache?
Posted by nhassl1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:10 pm to
they probably have instructions for a reason... i'm sure they do testing on what prepping will yield best results, and i'll bet what they recommend does precisely that.

couldnt pass up the opportunity to get my sarcasm in for the day.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:10 pm to
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What will raking do, other than make my back ache?
give the seed exposed soil
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:11 pm to
Zoysia takes forever to cover an area. If all goes well you will have a lawn by the end of the summer.

I would do everything you listed for zoysia. I have planted it from seed before and it is not like rye grass. I can grow ryegrass in the back of my truck. Zoysia is better to sod.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:12 pm to
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What will raking do, other than make my back ache?


Hand Blisters.
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
Guadalajara
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:18 pm to
Precisely why I prefer the laziest route to success.

This is actually not my lawn. It is on the far reaches of my property and has no sprikler access. I don't need instant coverage, which is why I chose the seed route.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166080 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:23 pm to
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Precisely why I prefer the laziest route to success.

This is actually not my lawn. It is on the far reaches of my property and has no sprikler access. I don't need instant coverage, which is why I chose the seed route.


Your attitude and statistics show that you just bought some really expensive bird seed.
Posted by Tiger 79
The Original Tiger 79
Member since Nov 2007
38009 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:30 pm to
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The zoysia bag has instructions a page long about prepping the ground and covering the seed 1/4" of topsoil and then covering everything with straw. It also says water it daily for 30 days. Is all of this absolutely necessary?


Yes, for a good stand..yes. The straw will act like a mulch and keep the soil moist and prevent excessive drying.

You need 2 things to grow grass, water and heat.
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 1:30 pm to
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really expensive bird seed.
exactly
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58627 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 3:58 pm to
Just rent a slit seeder. That's what I plan on doing if my yard doesn't spruce up soon.
Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
923 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 7:28 pm to
First thing there is a big difference between rye and zoysia. Rye seed will grow by just broadcasting. Thats alot of the reason why people plant it. Little effort medium reward. Try that with zoysia and you will get no effort no reward. Rye is a cool season grain that when it sprouts and the roots are exposed (at its most vulnerable state)there is less chance of the roots being burnt up. Also if the rye does shade the zoysia seed enough to not burn up the roots the rye has a root system that grows out instead of down and you run into what we call root bound. No room for the roots of the zoysia to grow so disc and plant it right if you want the reward
Posted by Tiger 79
The Original Tiger 79
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 7:42 pm to
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angus1838



I was talking good about you gumpster

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Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 7:57 pm to
Nicest thing anybody had ever said It is planting time and haven't had alot of time to be . I am sure you understand
Posted by Ole Geauxt
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Posted on 3/20/12 at 8:07 pm to
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Grass Seed
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Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29258 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 9:59 pm to
If you seeded before you mow, the grass clippings will basically mulch your seeds for free.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 10:04 pm to
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f you seeded before you mow, the grass clippings will basically mulch your seeds for free.
Zoysia seeding is alot like bermudagrass seeding. Must have good contact with soil or it won't grow.

I wouldn't bother putting it out if I wasn't going to prepare a seed bed properly for it.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58627 posts
Posted on 3/20/12 at 11:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/20/12 at 11:21 pm
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