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Single best article on Saints roster issues by Grandmaster Wang

Posted on 2/28/12 at 2:03 pm
Posted by turbodog34
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Posted on 2/28/12 at 2:03 pm
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And we've all long since resigned ourselves to the fact that if the Saints sign The Big Three, that's pretty much gonna be it. There's just not gonna be any money left over for any significant changes where we really need 'em, on defense. And giving huge raises to Brees, Nicks and Colston isn't gonna make them kick any more arse than they already do.

Throwing whatever crumbs that might be left over at a couple of relatively crappy free agent defenders (again) isn't likely to be of much help either.


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Meantime, not having to pay Nicks makes it a shitload easier for you to sign Colston if that's what you want to do. Or you could choose not to pay either guy. And don't even get me started on releasing one or more of Will Smith, Sedrick Ellis and Jonathan Vilma. All of a sudden the Saints are practically swimming in cap space. Mario Williams, Manny Lawson, insert your favorite "We can't afford 'em" free agent (or two) here. Take your pick.


This article is the single best analysis of our roster situation. A must read.

This post was edited on 2/28/12 at 2:08 pm
Posted by 99DSTJ
K-Town
Member since Jun 2009
780 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 2:56 pm to
First off. I don't really want this, but it does make you think. Just imagine the possibilities of the Dallas scenario. I feel crazy just typing this. We have to keep one of them dont we?
Posted by turbodog34
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Member since Jun 2010
32 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 5:33 pm to
Well when you consider that they are looking for top tier money

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The Saints are already as in the black as they're ever gonna be with Nicks (and Colston, for that matter.) They've already reaped The Big Reward for having "found" Nicks, in that they've had one of the best guards in the league on the cheap for 4 seasons. That's nothing short of winning the frickin' lottery. Same goes for having fallen arse-backwards into Colston in the 7th round and having him on the cheap for six seasons.
Posted by dietcoke7
LA
Member since Aug 2007
1030 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 6:26 pm to
This guy has put some serious thouoght into the situation. He may very well be right. If we want to upgrade the defense we may have to sacrifice either or both.

Jahri Evans has dropped off since getting the big contract. Front office is going to have to decide the odds of Nicks pulling a Charles Grant, Johnathan Sullivan, etc. and putting his performance on cruise control.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 2/28/12 at 7:47 pm to
I've pimped Wang on here for a while. Both good insight and entertaining writing.

Franchising Nicks and getting a 1st Rder, hell even an upper 2nd has always been my preferred armchair GM outcome.

Just as he said too. I love Nicks. I love Colston too. But for the $45-50mil Colston will cost could reel in a high impact defensive player. Step back and think if he was a FA on the market... gonna be 29, 5 knee surgeries (including microfracture), significant collarbone and wrist injuries, not a particularly strong vertical threat... would ya be clamoring to sign him long term?
Posted by turbodog34
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/29/12 at 2:32 pm to
Saints need to get the brees deal done though...its getting annoying. I'd like to keep both nicks and/or colston but I do think the chicken little in everyone is scared of moving forward without either. By franchising nicks and trading him we stand to gain more than keeping him, let colston test the waters and see just how much his market value really is.
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
10182 posts
Posted on 2/29/12 at 2:50 pm to
very good article. but for any of that to happen we can't put the tag on Brees. and the clock is ticking............
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 2/29/12 at 4:33 pm to
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I've pimped Wang on here for a while. Both good insight and entertaining writing.

Franchising Nicks and getting a 1st Rder, hell even an upper 2nd has always been my preferred armchair GM outcome.

Just as he said too. I love Nicks. I love Colston too. But for the $45-50mil Colston will cost could reel in a high impact defensive player. Step back and think if he was a FA on the market... gonna be 29, 5 knee surgeries (including microfracture), significant collarbone and wrist injuries, not a particularly strong vertical threat... would ya be clamoring to sign him long term?


+1

IMO if you have to choose between Colston and Nicks then it is a no-brainer to choose Nicks. Mainly for all of the reasons you mentioned about Colston but it is also much harder to replace a guard than a WR. I also believe that Colston success is more a function of our system and Brees rather than the other way around. But the main reason that Nicks is a no-brainer IMO is that if we are going to open up the bank for Brees then doesn't it make sense to protect that investment with one of the top guards in the league. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to pay Brees bank and then not provide him top notch protection.
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