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re: What would Usain Bolt's 40 yard dash time be?

Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:16 pm to
Who remembers Matt jones's 40 time?
Posted by RedMustang
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:16 pm to
No way would any football player ever come close to Bolt in the 40. This guys says he calculated the numbers and in Bolt's world record 100m, if he was timed using the NFL method, he ran an electronic 3.97.
Those of you who think Bolt is a slow starter, he had a discernible lead at 20 meters over the best sprinters in the world.
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Posted by Chaz95
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:19 pm to
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Bolt is notoriously a slow starter (all relative of course


my son's speed coach here in Dallas is an olympic sprinter, and he is a lightning fast starter [he runs the 200m]. he could beat Bolt in a short sprint, but Usain's knees get so high in his stride, so he's got a top gear which is ridiculous!
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Posted by Chaz95
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:21 pm to
most olympic sprinters compete in 60m sprints in the off-season to help train for their events.
Posted by Chaz95
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:27 pm to

[him in the 4x100m in beijing]



he had the lead after the first 30 meters but didn't qualify in the final of the 60m because he missed by less than a tenth of a second.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:31 pm to
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LR: "Forty yards, if he was being hand-timed by a scout and reacting to his movement - not electronically timed the way they do it [in track and field] - his 40-yard dash on a track, in spikes, would be 3.73 seconds.


Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:33 pm to
Yeaaaa... No
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:34 pm to
Bo's time was a hand time and totally illegitimate.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:35 pm to
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Bolt is notoriously a slow starter (all relative of course). I'd say he would run a 4.25-4.30.

Noi he's not. Carl Lewis was a slow starter but Bolt is a superb starter. In Beijing, he was second after 30 meters, only trailing LSU alumnus Richard Thompson.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:36 pm to
There is an old thread about this. And there is a web site that has the time for each 10 meter increment of Bolt's WR. I'm too lazy to go find it.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:38 pm to
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Bolt would probably run easily close to a 4 flat, nfl combine times are on the runners movement and not on a gun like in track and field.


No he wouldn't. Trindon Holliday only ran 4.34 at the combine and he can probably stay even with Bolt through 40 yards (36.5 meters).
Posted by Chaz95
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:38 pm to
i know that bolt is the fastest man in the world, but there are sprinters in the world who have a better start than him. like i said, nobody can match his high end after a certain point because of his stride height.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:41 pm to
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To the person who mentioned Trindon Holliday, Holliday is not in the same stratosphere as Bolt. Holliday has a PR of 9.95 the last time I checked, while Bolt ran a 9.59. Bolt is a fricking freak. The second fastest person in the world is either Tyson Gay or Asafa Powell, not some football player.

When Tyson Gay was in peak form in 2007, Trindon Holliday led him through 60 meters at the USATF Championships before finishing second.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:43 pm to
Yeah, probably should have typed was for the second fastest person, but
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Holliday has a PR of 9.95 the last time I checked, while Bolt ran a 9.59.


The only way to know Bolt's 40 time is for him to run one. I think he could break 4.2.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:47 pm to
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The only way to know Bolt's 40 time is for him to run one. I think he could break 4.2.


Fair enough. I just think if he could do that, he probably would do it just to show that he could. I mean, its never been done before.
Posted by tigercross
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:57 pm to
Someone in the thread already posted this chart, but I'll post it again:
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Bolt reached 40m in 4.64. The timing for NFL 40y starts when the athlete makes their first movement (correct?). To adjust Bolt's time toward the NFL time, you would subtract his reaction time, .146, which would bring him to a bit under 4.50 for 40 meters.

You would add .24 to all of the NFL guys' times since they are not using fully-automatic timing. That would put Chris Johnson at 4.48 for 40 yards, which is less (considerably) than 40 meters.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:59 pm to
There is so much ignorance being posted here, I need to set the record straight about a few things.
1) Bolt is not a slow starter. When he set the world record at the 2009 World Championships, he led from gun to finish.


This chart show how Bolt's 10-meter splits compares to other great 100 meter sprinters.


2) With a PR of 10.34, Bo Jackson was not even in the same class as Trindon Holliday, not to mention Usain Bolt.

3) In Beijing 2008, Richard Thompson led through 30 meters and he was second through 30 meters in Berlin 2009. However, even in his senior year at LSU when he was both the indoor and outdoor champion, he always trailed Trindon Holliday in the early part of races despite going through the college season undefeated.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:08 am to
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This chart show how Bolt's 10-meter splits compares to other great 100 meter sprinters.

The chart agrees with what I am saying. Bolt is exceptational (thus the highlighted portion) in the second half of the 100. Comparatively, Bolt's top speed is more impressive than his acceleration. Obviously, he should be at or near the front in practically all of his races at virtually any point, since he is easily the best.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 2/24/12 at 2:37 am to
That is a myth. World class sprinters. Can run in the 4.1 range. Prob only 1-2% of man kind can run an electric 4.30
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/24/12 at 6:43 am to
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That is a myth. World class sprinters. Can run in the 4.1 range. Prob only 1-2% of man kind can run an electric 4.30

Yes it is a myth under the current timing setup used at the NFL combine. Trindon Holliday and Jacoby Ford are legitimate world-class sprinters and they ran 4.34 and 4.28 respectively. Also, remember that runners at the combine have two things going against them compared to runners at track meets. 1) The field turf at the combine is a much slower running surface then the mondo used for modern tracks. 2) Runners at the combine don't have the benefit of starting blocks that runners in track meets do. IMO, these two things negate the advantage of reaction time. Here's a video of Trindon taking down a world-class field in the 60:

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