Enough with the Monty Williams bashing

Who's bashing him?

I don't think everyone's problem is with him personally, but how he is handling the line-up.

Reminds me of the head games Les Miles plays with his players. You get left wondering "Why in the hell would he do that?"

I started the "Monty Williams bashing" thread, but I don't think he needs to be fired. I am seriously questioning some moves he makes, but I'm hoping he learns.

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Jester complains about everything. Don't worry about him. If we were winning he would complaint that we should tank.

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It's cool. Monty makes no mistakes. You are looking only at my posts about two downright bad basketball teams. Sorry if realistic observations bother you.

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Have you guys SEEN the talent on this team? There is no question that without Gordon, no team in the West has a less talented roster than the Hornets. Could Monty have done better in a couple games this year? Absolutely. That being said, how can some people be calling for his job when he is trying to win games with a group of guys that, talent-wise, could only beat maybe 3 other teams (Charlotte, Washington, maybe Detroit) in a 7-game series? Besides, I would rather have Monty over 11 of the coaches of other NBA teams

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The Hornets are on the verge of being the worst team in league. Its an epic decline that bears scrutiny. Who exactly do you think should take the blame? Monty won with Paul, he is losing without him. How many coaches have survived a sub .200 season?

There is no excuse for Bellinelli getting the minutes he does.

Kaman is our second best player on the team, he should be logging 30+ minutes a night.

Why do we collapse in the 4th of every game? He doesn't put the optimal lineup on the floor when it matters most.

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I don't think everyone's problem is with him personally, but how he is handling the line-up.

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He's shuffling shite, though.

It's basically just complaining about what steaming pile we'll lose that night's game with

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Who exactly do you think should take the blame?

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Scott/Bower/Shinn for screwing it up with CP3. Scott made drafting pointless, Bower was terrible at negotiating contracts, and Shinn's financial constraints both created and magnified every organizational weakness big time. You maybe could also blame Gary Chouest for not stepping up and buying the team. If he had bought it when he originally said he would that might have given the team enough direction and hope to keep CP3 and West.

I suppose you could blame Demps because I don't think it's a coincidence that Gordon is out for an indeterminate amount of time with a bone bruise in a year we need to tank. Last time we needed to tank West missed over 50 games with a bone bruise which lead to drafting CP3.

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How many coaches have survived a sub .200 season?

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Whether Monty becomes the scape goat for this season or not is yet to be determined. It's been pretty obvious what this season would be about but I think it's finally starting to sink in to most fans who are expressing their frustration more and more with each loss. I think he should mostly get a pass for this season. It is beneficial to lose while developing young guys (which means Henry/Aminu not Beli/Ariza Monty), and this team has a really solid group of role players that's probably only 2 young star players away from being the next OKC. Unfortunately Minnesota isn't cooperating

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I don't think it's a coincidence that Gordon is out for an indeterminate amount of time with a bone bruise in a year we need to tank.

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I think we need to debunk this rumor or it needs alot more analysis. That is a huge gamble for Gordon to make in a potential contract year. In my eyes, a major knee injury would stop me from signing a guy long term, until he proved it was stable and didn't diminish his skills. Not a knock on Gordon, but I just think that is smart business. Also, how would they tell Gordon to stay out? If anybody found out it would be a huge controversy. Paying a guy not to play to get a better pick. Maybe at the end of the season, if he had a minor injury and you didn't want him to chance it. But healthy players play. If they (Dell, Monty, etc..) told him not to play and denied the fans the so called new star of the franchise, then God help them. Firing woulnd't be good enough, they would need to be run out of the league. I know it's a bit naive, but you don't screw over paying customers like that.

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Cons: No Olympics, worse pick = stuck on worse team for the next 4 years, Not getting to watch as much football and college basketball

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You lost me. He's not going to the Olympics either way and him sitting out the season to heal for them would be horse crap anyway. If he is healthy enough to be cleared by the doctors, he should play. I don't care about tanking or losing on purpose, he needs to be on the court.

As far as does it hurt his value. I would think not playing/being injured will start hurting his value eventually. I wouldn't give him the extension right now until I saw him play and knew he was the same as before. That would take more than a couple of games.

The whole situation just stinks to me right now. His drama is just as bad as Paul's and he is no where near Paul's level to make it worth it. I really hope he's gone after Feb. the 12th..