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A Time to Kill It (as in "kill it" on the field in terms of a passing game)

Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:12 pm
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:12 pm
It would seem that even Miles now would realize that LSU has developed a reputation as being unfriedly to receivers. 1/9/12 was a punctuation on the period of ineptness for the LSU offense.

Everyone thought it was Crowton. He left. Everyone thought it was JJ/JLee, now they are gone.

BUT, we have Miles and his philosophy...

and we have Mett, a seemingly outstanding passing QB...

It is now time for Miles to show recruits in spades that he will unleash the Tigers in both the running and passing game.

Who honestly thinks Miles might actually think this way heading into 2012?

Or will he reload his philosophy by justifying/rationalizing that we may just have the best combination of running backs and Olinemen in the history (combination, not single unit of one or the other) of the LSU football program?

Will Miles change much, or just a little bit? Will Shep and ODB Jr and Avery Johnson and others be able to sing praises to wide reviever recruits next January as NSD 2013 approaches?
This post was edited on 2/3/12 at 9:15 pm
Posted by paulie
NOLA
Member since Dec 2007
675 posts
Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:18 pm to
He already stated that we will be more balanced in offense next year.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

He already stated that we will be more balanced in offense next year.


Miles has stated dozens of things that did he did not do. Anyone that puts any faith in any statement he makes has to be gullable. I am talking about whether people actually believe, regardless of his statements, that he will want to show definitively that you can come to LSU and be a significant part of the offense. 2006 was a long time ago. Kids in the next signing class (seniors graduating in 2013) were barely in Jr high back then...
Posted by headboard banger
Dark side of the Moon
Member since Jan 2005
2953 posts
Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:53 pm to
Stop it. He will adjust to the talent at hand. He was delt with shitty cards and played them the best he could. Now he may be holding "Big Slick", so we will see how it will play out.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 2/4/12 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

.bama was comparable in talent and he got flat out coached




Saban got out coached on Nov. 5 and last year in TS. It happens to the best coaches.

Posted by cenla tigah
cenla
Member since Sep 2007
5521 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:02 am to
seriously bird, do ya think if the ns was facing what lm did, he would've done things the same?
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:05 am to
quote:

do ya think if the ns was facing what lm did, he would've done things the same?



I'm not following you.

If Saban was facing what Miles did? Is that what you're asking?

I mean, are you asking if Saban was getting beaten, would he have done what Miles did?

Just trying to understand what you're asking.
Posted by cenla tigah
cenla
Member since Sep 2007
5521 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:10 am to
i understand the hypo i posed is not rational, but lemme try to clear up my question. If somehow situations were totally reversed, do you think Nick would have tried a different quarterback?
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:14 am to
quote:

If somehow situations were totally reversed, do you think Nick would have tried a different quarterback?



That's what I thought you were asking but I wasn't quite sure. They typo threw me off.

To answer your question, I think Saban would've done something different. That's not to dump on Miles, by any means.

I made that previous post in regards to that one poster saying this about Miles:

quote:

i still think he sucks, and he's a retard, other coaches dont respect him, why should fans?


Both are excellent coaches.
Posted by cenla tigah
cenla
Member since Sep 2007
5521 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:18 am to
well said, i just curious about your opinion
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
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31001 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:21 am to
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16368 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 12:53 am to
Agree that NS would have reacted differently - compare how he shuffled QB's in '00 (Davey & Booty) and in '02 (after Mauck got hurt - he even started Clausen didn't he vs OM?).

But Nick has his share of skeletons in the closet. It happens.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 9:19 am to
If he really 'changes', it will run counter to his hard headed reputation. He could, or he could just be blowing smoke in the media (which he often does to get the pressure off of his back).

Miles isn't going to reveal to anyone what he is going to do, and the Spring game is not going to tell us either. You won't know if Miles learned his lesson until after the first few games of next season.
Posted by Mr LSU2001
lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
465 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 9:34 am to
quote:

he had far superior talent than anyone else....bama was comparable in talent and he got flat out coached...fact is he had nothing to do with the wins because we could have won a 1000 different ways with the players we had...now, ill give him credit for recruiting those players, but if he doesnt throw the shite out of it with mett at QB next year i think he might be the most retarded individual on the face of the planet


So according to you LSU doesn't need a coach So you wanted him to throw 50 times with Jlee or JJ Man glad you aren't the coach.... He will be more balanced with Mett but if you want to see the ball thrown 50 times a game might want to watch the big 12... if he will run the ball 50-55%... With our RB its understandable... What you guys need to realize is if mett is as good as avertised what he brings.. With JJ/Lee all we had was play action that was IT!!! Met should bring a a QB that can do it all... But to say miles sucks..... To spend 4 years with these 2 QB we have had and win like he did.. i wouldn't say he sucks...
This post was edited on 2/5/12 at 9:36 am
Posted by Mr LSU2001
lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
465 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 9:42 am to
quote:

He , Miles , did not get out coached . It was a money game , he Miles , did not coach o win . When you have players sitting on the bench , not playing , you plan to lose


This right here shows how STUPID some of you are... You do reilze that if Miles won the game he would have become the highest paid coach in College football.... Would have gotten over 1 million dollar raise... So guess it wasn't money ball Maby just maby it is what he said they thought JJ mobility was best option..... He was wrong and has said he would do alot differant.... But at the time he didn't move on... Every coach makes mistakes and gets there arse kicked...... even the might NS remember Utah But please stop you make yourself look stupid with comments like these....
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31788 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 9:53 am to
quote:

If he really 'changes', it will run counter to his hard headed reputation. He could, or he could just be blowing smoke in the media (which he often does to get the pressure off of his back).


Well it wouldnt be changing if that is his philosophy now is it? Someone ran the numbers and even with Lee we went 70 30 run:pass, but before the previous qbs in just about every year we went 55:45 even back to when Miles was at Okie state. So would it really be "changing" or would it just be finally able to get back to what he wants-a balanced offense?

BTW I dont think Miles is as hard headed as yall think every big mistake (co dcs Crowton Hicks) he has taken care of pretty quickly. Crowton stayed one year too long but from what Ive been told that was the BOS telling Les they werent going to spend that much money to buy out his contract. Thats why 2010 was the only year Les has had a play sheet on the sidelines-he wanted to fire his OC but couldnt.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6755 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 9:59 am to
I expect the offense to look similar to the first 8 games last season when Lee was at QB. Possibly throw a couple more long balls per game if Mett is everything he is suppose to be, which I think he is.

All the stupid mistakes Miles had made in the past he has learned from. He always corrects his mistakes. Game clock management comes to mind for one.
This post was edited on 2/5/12 at 10:00 am
Posted by Mr LSU2001
lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
465 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 10:03 am to

quote:

expect the offense to look similar to the first 8 games last season when Lee was at QB. Possibly throw a couple more long balls per game if Mett is everything he is suppose to be, which I think he is.

All the stupid mistakes Miles had made in the past he has learned from. He always corrects his mistakes. Game clock management comes to mind for one.


I agree he does fix his mistakes.... I think he will go to a 55% 45% run pass.. Like he did before jj/lee.... with them we were 70% 30% run pass... Shows he didn't have much faith in them...
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Miles isn't going to reveal to anyone what he is going to do, and the Spring game is not going to tell us either. You won't know if Miles learned his lesson until after the first few games of next season.


Yep, we have to just deal with it. It will be mid or late in the season before we see whether Miles will really change or not...Or, if he is just waiting for any possible excuse to run options and a run-mostly Qb some kind of way. If you truly look at all the statements Miles has made in his 7 years, and noticed there is hardly any correlation at all between his words and what he does, then you are a fool to believe anything that he says. I believe he loves LSU. I believe he loves his family. Anything beyond that, I don't believe him at all.
Posted by LSUviaCincy
Cincinnati
Member since Sep 2011
874 posts
Posted on 2/5/12 at 2:19 pm to
Miles has a QB with a higher football IQ. He will trust him as long as turnovers do not happen. Otherwise, he should, as anyone sound coach, play defense and let his running game wear down most of his over matched opponents. Coaching 101 boys.

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