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Turning Point in the Game
Posted on 1/15/12 at 1:47 am
Posted on 1/15/12 at 1:47 am
I'm just now getting over the numbness and am finally able to type some thoughts.... there is so much to talk about here but in my opinion there is one play that set it all off.
Yes, I'm talking about the very first turnover, sure it seems cliche' to blame the first turnover on changing the outcome of the game... but it definitely did. If PT doesn't get absolutely put to sleep, he does not drop that ball. And, more importantly he does not get knocked out the game.
Not only did we lose a big play maker, but we lost a big PLAY in general. The screen game was completely waxed after PT left. Sproles was not effective running the screen, he's not the guy you need slowing down waiting for blocks to develop. PT can do that cause he can also break multiple tackles routinely. Sproles needs to be able to use his quickness and speed and hit holes.
If we go up 7-0 on the opening drive, it sets a completely different tone for the game!! Not to mention still having PT in the mix.
THIS in my opinion was the major turning point in the game.
Yes, I'm talking about the very first turnover, sure it seems cliche' to blame the first turnover on changing the outcome of the game... but it definitely did. If PT doesn't get absolutely put to sleep, he does not drop that ball. And, more importantly he does not get knocked out the game.
Not only did we lose a big play maker, but we lost a big PLAY in general. The screen game was completely waxed after PT left. Sproles was not effective running the screen, he's not the guy you need slowing down waiting for blocks to develop. PT can do that cause he can also break multiple tackles routinely. Sproles needs to be able to use his quickness and speed and hit holes.
If we go up 7-0 on the opening drive, it sets a completely different tone for the game!! Not to mention still having PT in the mix.
THIS in my opinion was the major turning point in the game.
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 1:49 am to Cajun8
Is 5 turnovers ! And a D that with a lead and only 1:24 in the game couldn't hold a lead !
Posted on 1/15/12 at 1:52 am to LSU77
I know how the rest of the game went. I'm just saying, that 1st turn over and the way it happened, knocking out a key leader on our offense and them going down the field and taking 7 from us, it just set the tone that they came to play and we were gonna be fighting uphill all day. It's a mental game and this shite affects it more than we can know.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 1:53 am to Cajun8
Agreed. That first turnover was HUGE...and a HUGE missed call by the refs too. That hit should result in a fine IMO, but probably won't get any attention at all.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 1:57 am to jordan21210
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Agreed. That first turnover was HUGE...and a HUGE missed call by the refs too.
EXACTLY, there are so many things about that one play that jumps out as just demoralizing.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 2:00 am to Cajun8
it wasn't a flag on the hit. He wasn't defenseless.
But I agree, it gave them all the momentum, which was magnified being in candlestick. Not to mention it took points off the board for us and set the tone of the game for them
But I agree, it gave them all the momentum, which was magnified being in candlestick. Not to mention it took points off the board for us and set the tone of the game for them
Posted on 1/15/12 at 2:03 am to Cajun8
I feel bad for PT and yeah that was a crucial play but how about the fumble that we didn't recover on the 49ers first drive? Harper nailed Alex Smith on a blitz and we couldn't recover the fumble. 
Posted on 1/15/12 at 2:07 am to LooseCannon22282
There are honestly too many missed opportunities to sit here and try to narrow them down to one. That first fumble just sticks out more than the others because it set the tone for a game in which we knew we COULD NOT, at all costs, turn the ball over...and then BAM...first drive...inside their 5...and we cough it up.
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:59 am to jordan21210
Yup. Driving on them on the first drive only to result in 0 points definitely put us in a bad situation early to start the game. PT getting knocked out set a mental tone - it gave SF the confidence and momentum that they could play with us.
If we could go all the way down the field and score on them on the first drive...I think this game would have been something close to domination for us.
The fact that we came back from 17-0 shows how great Brees and this offense truly is. frick.
If we could go all the way down the field and score on them on the first drive...I think this game would have been something close to domination for us.
The fact that we came back from 17-0 shows how great Brees and this offense truly is. frick.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 4:03 am to cornstarch
Roby's fumble was a key turning point, as well as Drew's INT that they returned to the 4
Posted on 1/15/12 at 5:32 am to Lester Earl
The funny thing about that play is it showed why we drafted Ingram. Ivory is one dimensional, if Ingram had been healthy we would of had a two dimensional running back and possibly kept the 49ers honest at times. All the people posting that we wasted that pick should realize why we did it, unfortunately it didn't work out because of turf toe. Without a complete back we are easier to read for a defense it showed last year and it showed up the moment Thomas went down.
The sad thing is we still should have won. 85 yards 1 timeout with 1:38 left in the game and the defense can't stop a mediocre offense from driving the length of the field for a TD. Pathetic.
The sad thing is we still should have won. 85 yards 1 timeout with 1:38 left in the game and the defense can't stop a mediocre offense from driving the length of the field for a TD. Pathetic.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 6:14 am to GynoSandberg
Helmet to helmet??? I do not understand how that was not called. The injury caused is what that rule is supposed to protect against. Am I missing something? 
Posted on 1/15/12 at 6:46 am to TigerRooEx
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Helmet to helmet???
He wasn't considered a defenseless player. Helmet to helmet is only called if your considered a defenseless player. A runner who is juking and putting his helmet down is fair game according the the rule book.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 6:59 am to cssamerican
That's what I missed... 
Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:04 am to Cajun8
I totally agree with you. Our game plan completely changes with him out because we rely on matchups rather than scheme.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:10 am to Lester Earl
Roby's fumble happened because of PT's injury. They put Roby back there instead of Sproles because Sproles was going to have to play a bigger role on the offense. So if PT isn't knocked out, Roby isn't returning kickoffs, and we don't have that fumble to give them points.
The Thomas fumble and injury was the biggest play of the game.
The Thomas fumble and injury was the biggest play of the game.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 8:49 am to Cajun8
The turning point of the game was allowing the big pass play to Davis after Sproles' td.
Their offense hadn't really hit much big (except where we took ourslves out on Davis first TD).
Their offense hadn't really hit much big (except where we took ourslves out on Davis first TD).
Posted on 1/15/12 at 8:52 am to Cajun8
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If PT doesn't get absolutely put to sleep, he does not drop that ball. And, more importantly he does not get knocked out the game.
Agree. If we had scored . . . yes . . . it would have changed the game. Does it mean we would have won? Beats me.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 8:53 am to cssamerican
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The funny thing about that play is it showed why we drafted Ingram.
I absolutely agree. The entire game I was wishing we had Igram available.
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