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All they had to do
Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:24 pm
Was Install a basic wishbone offense to line up in and run their plays off that set up-Bama's defense would have shite bricks on that first play of the game. The wishbone is basically the option with an xtra option you have to account for. Bama's kine would have been slowed a bit because you have to respect the dive up the middle first. That is the only wrinkle they would have needed. Of course, the O-line still couldn't let themselves get tossed around.
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:25 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
They were ready for the option. Don't think any option variations would have worked.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:28 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Man, how have you not been picked up by a D-1 school?
I mean, you just laid out, in one paragraph, how to defeat a Saban D.
I mean, you just laid out, in one paragraph, how to defeat a Saban D.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:33 pm to RummelTiger
Guys-I played in a wishbone offense-when another team isn't expecting it-there will be problems no matter how good you are. True, they were ready for the basic option where the QB either runs or pitches-but the true wishbone adds a few more wrinkles and the Bama line would have had to account for all of them thus slowing them down a bit.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:35 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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Bama's kine would have been slowed a bit because you have to respect the dive up the middle first
So how does the unblocked man in the middle that the QB reads affect how the LB/DB fly to the QB/pitch man?
Moreover, how does the lack of effectiveness of JJ to force the man accounting for the QB to commit by adding another option that doesn't affect the guy responsible for the QB?
Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:37 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:44 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
I love the rant.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 11:51 pm to Hopeful Doc
Good question and I'll try to explain it. First, JJ ran the option li;e crap last night There were times when he pitched the ball to the RB and the defender was already keying on the pitch man. He had alleys he could have turned up and made some yardage. He was out of sync for sure. In the wishbone, its all about the flow and deception. If you hand the ball off to the dive back, the QB and the other back still have to carry out the pitch part even without the ball. The LB's have to respect that first. Now when you really have it going- the fake to the dive man still freezes the LB's. The second back not involved in the pitch seals off backside persuit or runs a seam route for a throwback off the option pitch. Soon you have safeties and db's thinking about stopping the run and you could have hit Randall or Beckam on a long one off the option set. I'm telling you Bama would have been surprised.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:04 am to StarkvilleTigerFan
No, just no.
You don't install a formation you have never seen or used before in-between games.
It wouldn't have worked because they were ready for the option and we wouldn't have executed it well enough with that little of time to put it in
You don't install a formation you have never seen or used before in-between games.
It wouldn't have worked because they were ready for the option and we wouldn't have executed it well enough with that little of time to put it in
Posted on 1/11/12 at 1:49 am to jozy
Well-it appears Bama install something the Tiger defense wasn't ready for. Remember-they didn't have to install the full wishbone-just line up in it and run a couple of basic plays. It would have only taken a week since we already ran the option. So the answer is yes, just yes. Bama was prepared for the basic option true.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 7:45 am to StarkvilleTigerFan
JJ would be too stupid to run this anyway. And when it failed he would have blamed someone else.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 7:49 am to StarkvilleTigerFan
it was worth a try, it didnt have to be a full wishbone, but jus let ebody block for JJ, or better let JJ pitch it and throw a damn block, hit somebody!
Posted on 1/11/12 at 7:52 am to LSUBS88
Until JJ hit some longer passes than that stuff within a few yards of the LOS, nothing was going to open up on the line of scrimmage no matter what you did.
This post was edited on 1/11/12 at 7:53 am
Posted on 1/11/12 at 7:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Until JJ hit some longer passes than that stuff within a few yards of the LOS, nothing was going to open up on the line of scrimmage no matter what you did.
EXACTLY
See Pittsburgh v. Denver for proof.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 7:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
How about we remember that there is a such thing as the forward fricking pass.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 7:59 am to Moustache
JJ and Lee were taught the look underneath and hit the quick slant with Crowton, not lead rec down the field.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:00 am to StarkvilleTigerFan
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All they had to do
Just my opinion...
LSU's O kept the ball in front of the entire Ala. D most of the night. Wishbone does the same.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:03 am to cyogi
We needed a qb with a quick release, one who can check down and three step drops with an 8 man front its inexcusable not to throw downfield granted you have a qb that can throw
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:34 am to jozy
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It wouldn't have worked because they were ready for the option and we wouldn't have executed it well enough with that little of time to put it in
shite, we couldn't execute an offense they've been playing since spring ball.
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