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Miles said the coaching staff will make decisions and not ask permission

Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:32 pm
Posted by MindenBengal
Minden,La.
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:32 pm
Was Les showing the fan base who is boss,by giving up in the fourth,instead of atleast trying Lee? Makes it hard to look forward for me.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:37 pm to
sure seems like it
Posted by filmmaker45
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:38 pm to
If this is all some...stupid arrogant power struggle between les and the fans, then something needs to be done.

Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:41 pm to
im sure ill get roasted for this, but methinks that to an extent, it wasnt worth the risk of having Lee come in and actually get a few first downs and move the ball. Lee probably couldnt overcome that lead with that amount of time left anyhow... so why risk it?

It would invite tremendous criticism and would make Miles look like a fool for not playing him sooner and benching him to begin with, and he would be taking 10x the heat he is right now.


Legit experts would begin to question Miles decisions which would create uncertainty about his future. Its just easier to avoid all that.

Miles knew LSU would sink or swim with Jefferson.

There were no other options.

We sank.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Was Les showing the fan base who is boss,by giving up in the fourth,instead of atleast trying Lee? Makes it hard to look forward for me.


If this is true (and I'm not saying it is -- a big part of me thinks the notion is beyond silly), wouldn't he essentially be letting the fans affect his decisions?

If you're not doing something solely to spite someone that means THAT SOMEONE is affecting your decisions.
Posted by GregMaddux
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

m sure ill get roasted for this, but methinks that to an extent, it wasnt worth the risk of having Lee come in and actually get a few first downs and move the ball. Lee probably couldnt overcome that lead with that amount of time left anyhow... so why risk it?


Risk what? wtf are you talking about
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:42 pm to
Ultimately, I think Joe Alleva needs to have a meeting with Les Miles. This would be simply to ask one question: What were you trying to prove out there?
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:43 pm to
So you're saying he quit.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:43 pm to
I hate to think that anyone would just give up, but do admit that it looks that way.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:43 pm to
Why risk it? Well, that silly national title thing is a good reason to be made a fool I it lee had come in and won
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:45 pm to
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There were no other options.

Right. Other than the guy who played almost flawlessly for all but 2 snaps this year.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Was Les showing the fan base who is boss,by giving up in the fourth,instead of atleast trying Lee? Makes it hard to look forward for me.


If a fan could see the loss coming, so could Miles. He probably figured it wasn't worth it to appease the fanbase and put Lee in that spot.

Who the frick knows, though. I'm sure he's more worried about the $1M raise he just lost out on than he is about fan opinions.

I know I would be. $1M a year is a lot of money for anybody. I'd kill most of you in your sleep for a 26% raise over what I'm making right now.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

so why risk it?


what did you have to lose?

lee couldn't score negative points
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14664 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:46 pm to
So you want a head coach who factors in fan's opinions in his decision making? Really?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57204 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

im sure ill get roasted for this, but methinks that to an extent, it wasnt worth the risk of having Lee come in and actually get a few first downs and move the ball. Lee probably couldnt overcome that lead with that amount of time left anyhow... so why risk it?

It would invite tremendous criticism and would make Miles look like a fool for not playing him sooner and benching him to begin with, and he would be taking 10x the heat he is right now.



If he admitted to thinking this, he'd be fired before the sun went down and deservedly so.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9732 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:46 pm to
You play to win the game. Frick the fans
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16689 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:47 pm to

quote:

So you're saying he quit.


Im saying he quit on Lee

Miles made his decision with JJ long ago, and he wasnt doubling back.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17065 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:48 pm to
quote:


So you're saying he quit.


I don't think can argue that Miles didn't quit. Johnnie Cochran couldn't argue that.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:49 pm to
Miles quit on the TEAM

4th Quarter

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Time Left Team Play
15:00 LSU Rush: Kenny Hilliard rushed right for 2 yards.
14:45 LSU Rush: Kenny Hilliard up the middle for 1 yard.
14:10 LSU Rush: Michael Ford up the middle for 4 yards.
13:35 LSU Rush: Jordan Jefferson rushed right for 3 yards.
13:14 LSU Rush: J.C. Copeland up the middle for 1 yard.
13:00 LSU Punt: Brad Wing punted the ball 43 yards, out of bounds at the Alabama 17.
12:30 Alabama Rush: Trent Richardson up the middle to the Alabama 20 for 3 yards.
12:15 Alabama Rush: Trent Richardson up the middle to the Alabama 21 for 2 yards.
10:55 Alabama Sack: A.J. McCarron sacked by Kevin Minter for -7 yards.
10:30 Alabama Punt: Cody Mandell punted 52 yards from the Alabama 14 to the L-S-U 34. Tyrann Mathieu returned to the L-S-U 35 for 1 yard.
9:44 LSU Rush: Spencer Ware rushed right for 5 yards.
9:30 LSU Rush: Jordan Jefferson up the middle for 3 yards.
8:55 LSU Rush: Kenny Hilliard up the middle for 7 yards.
8:30 LSU Rush: Jordan Jefferson up the middle to the Alabama 31 for 19 yards.
8:10 LSU Rush: Michael Ford rushed left to the Alabama 35 for -3 yards.

6:56 LSU Pass-incomplete: Jordan Jefferson pass incomplete to Spencer Ware.
6:27 LSU Pass-incomplete: Jordan Jefferson pass incomplete to Jarvis Landry.
6:21 LSU Fumble-return: Jordan Jefferson sacked by Don''ta Hightower. Jordan Jefferson fumble recovered by Nick Gentry at the L-S-U 50 returned for no gain.
5:59 Alabama Rush: Trent Richardson up the middle for 3 yards.
5:30 Alabama Rush: A.J. McCarron rushed left for 14 yards.
5:45 Alabama Rush: Trent Richardson rushed left for 1 yard.
4:36 Alabama Rush: Trent Richardson rushed left for 34 yards.
4:36 Alabama Extra-point: Jeremy Shelley extra point missed.
4:36 Alabama Kickoff: Cade Foster kicked off 62 yards from the Alabama 30 to the L-S-U 8. Ron Brooks to the L-S-U 23 for 15 yards.
4:30 LSU Pass-incomplete: Jordan Jefferson pass incomplete to Deangelo Peterson.
4:26 LSU Pass-complete: Jordan Jefferson pass to Spencer Ware to the L-S-U 21 for -2 yards.
4:00 LSU Sack: Jordan Jefferson sacked by Don''ta Hightower for -2 yards.
2:58 LSU Punt: Brad Wing punt downed by kicking team at the Alabama 49 for 27 yards.
2:47 Alabama Rush: Eddie Lacy rushed right for 2 yards.
2:20 Alabama Rush: Eddie Lacy up the middle for 2 yards.
1:50 Alabama Rush: Eddie Lacy rushed left for 2 yards.
0:50 Alabama Rush: Eddie Lacy up the middle for 4 yards.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16689 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

If he admitted to thinking this, he'd be fired before the sun went down and deservedly so.


this is probably a half-subconscious thought. I dont know that one actually ponders it. It would be more like a natural reaction - resisting being wrong.
This post was edited on 1/10/12 at 1:51 pm
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