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Posted on 12/14/11 at 9:52 pm
Posted by WhiskeyBusiness
Member since Aug 2011
1160 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 9:52 pm
Does having a bunch of running backs with different skill sets affect the o line in a positive or negative way? Does it make them block any differently than if there was a premier back?

For what its worth, i love having this many stud backs that can do it all
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13228 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 9:55 pm to
i wouldn't think so, but idk
Posted by Dro
Barrett's Barleycorn
Member since Feb 2010
12615 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 10:00 pm to
As a former pulling guard, the offense may change but the blocking scheme doesn't in most offenses.
Posted by DVtiger
Alsatian Valley
Member since Aug 2007
663 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 10:00 pm to
No.

No.

fwiw-agree.
Posted by lsudat10
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2010
2742 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 10:07 pm to
all good running backs know how to read and adapt to their blocks. lineman don't adapt to the ball carrier. it's either take what i'm giving you or gtfo
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5214 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

all good running backs know how to read and adapt to their blocks. lineman don't adapt to the ball carrier. it's either take what i'm giving you or gtfo


This^

Though some running backs can come off the bench and add a "spark" which can provide mo a unit can feed off of, the scheme doesn't change....just the emotional intensity of the moment.
Posted by BeastmodeTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
237 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 10:36 pm to
RB and O-line timing is probably one of the most undervalued concepts amongst casual football fans. Changing RB's throughout the game doesn't effect the O-line at all because as one poster already mentioned we do our thing it's their job to learn what timing works best on what play. Some plays just take longer to develop and the RB needs to be patient and others are only open for a quick second and if the back doesn't nail it just right it closes back up. This timing comes with experience and repetitions. With that being said theoretically multiple backs can come in and the rhythm of the running game not be disturbed as long as each back has a good feel for each type of play being called. In reality I do think it is tough, which may be one explanation of the "hot hand" theory. It is why one back looks so good one week and another the next in our offense. Sometimes that rhythm is there from the first carry and sometimes it's just not and may take a few carries before it can be established. I do know it is frustrating when a play is blocked perfectly and the backs timing is off just a little and a big gain is missed out on. Anytime a back is running up the backs of his O-line trust me in the huddle the big uglies are telling him to be a little more patient.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89453 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

Does having a bunch of running backs with different skill sets affect the o line in a positive or negative way? Does it make them block any differently than if there was a premier back?

For what its worth, i love having this many stud backs that can do it all


It is taxing on the OL to have lots of different run schemes, but as far as individual backs - there is a much greater difference with the cadence, snap count and the way a QB moves around in the pocket under pressure, than for various runners' "styles".

Most OL prefer run blocking to begin with, because they get to tee off and dish out some punishment - be "proactive". Their main job in run blocking is to drive a defender out of a spot, and sometimes at a particular angle to create "the hole", or for defenders further away to stick to him so he cannot pursue or close the hole. Additionally, particularly guards and the center on some plays - a quick block, then get to the next level to get on a LBer (or more rarely, a safety), depending on the play.

However, having various runners cycle in and out does not normally alter or affect the OL very much.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89453 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

This timing comes with experience and repetitions. With that being said theoretically multiple backs can come in and the rhythm of the running game not be disturbed as long as each back has a good feel for each type of play being called.


This is a key point - if you have a great space player at the RB position (a hybrid HB/WR, I like to call them) and you try to run him inside, he has to get a feel for the plays and the timing of the hole. That's why you see many of the fail to get the tough yards between the tackles. It's not so much size (certainly not as important as toughness, Dalton Hilliard and Walter Payton were tough as nails without carrying significant tonnage) as it is timing, attitude and toughness between the tackles.

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22767 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 11:11 pm to
Having different backs really only affects the play calling and not the chemistry. Of course I just made that up and really don't have a clue. Really.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 11:31 pm to
You don't block differently for different RBs. You either pass block or run block. Different schemes may help different backs (cross block, pulling guard, etc.), but that's about it.

Blocking is simply taking the defender out of the play. Just have to know where to be and who to look for. The RBs do the rest.
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 11:35 pm
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