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Astros new group makes first move....
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:16 pm
This is from crawfish boxes
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Jeff Luhnow has provided us with our first gift of the holiday season as new general manager of the Astros. Jerry Cransick appears to have been the first one to report the trade with Ken Rosenthal confirming.
In return for Mark Melancon the Astros receive shortstop Jed Lowrie and right handed starting pitcher Kyle Weiland from the Boston Red Sox.
In 2011 at the age of 24 Weiland posted a 7.66 ERA in 24.2 innings for the Red Sox in 7 games, 5 of which were starts. Obviously small sample size so we won't jump to any conclusions just yet. Weiland was drafted in the 3rd round and has had a steady climb through the minors. For his Minor League career he has a 3.51 ERA in 449.1 innings with a 1.215 WHIP, a 8.5 SO/9 and a 3.4 BB/9.
Weiland features a 90-95 fastball in a two-seam and four-seam variety, a 78-81 curveball, a 85-88 cutter and a low 80's changeup. I imagine the Astros will try him out as a starter and move him to the bullpen if necessary.
The switch hitting Lowrie has been in the majors since 2008 and has posted a .252/.324/.408 line in 256 games. With a Minor League .286/.381/.448 line, he has some untapped offensive potential. Injuries have been a big issue. If he can stay healthy he may be able to provide some offensive production at a premium defensive position.
Speaking of defense, the advanced defensive metrics have not been kind to him at the shortstop position the past couple seasons. However small sample sizes and injuries may have affected those ratings. He looks to be average defensively at second and third base. If anything he may turn into a decent utility infielder.
Gotta say I like this move. It's creative and something the previous front office probably wouldn't of gotten done. The Astros are taking on some risk here giving up a cost effective player in Melancon for Weiland an unproven pitcher and Lowrie a struggling position player. In the end though taking chances like these are what the Astros need to be doing. If the price for a potential starter and starting shortstop is a bullpen piece sign me up
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 2:17 pm
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:18 pm to 225rumpshaker
Love the move. We traded a power pitcher that normally was around 92-93 for a ss and a potential number 5 on the astros rotation. Obviously this will not give us anymore wins but at least we do not have to have sanchez as ss.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:19 pm to 225rumpshaker
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:20 pm to LSUIEGRAD13
quote:The pitcher could also move to the pen if he does not work out as a starter. It is nice to see the Astros dealing with other teams in baseball again.
We traded a power pitcher that normally was around 92-93 for a ss and a potential number 5 on the astros rotation
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:21 pm to 225rumpshaker
CHAMPIONSHIP
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:25 pm to Cosmo
quote:you're wrong for that.
CHAMPIONSHIP
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:09 pm to TxHillsTiger
serious question for the Astros fans in the know. Not flaming. Just want your opinion.
When do you see the Astros climbing the mountain again for a solid team that can contend for a playoff spot ? Obviously, 2013 brings a new American League gig. In other words, have the Astros already hit rock bottom ?
Did trading Oswalt and #3 for the Phillies (outfielder) bring any good to the organization ?
When do you see the Astros climbing the mountain again for a solid team that can contend for a playoff spot ? Obviously, 2013 brings a new American League gig. In other words, have the Astros already hit rock bottom ?
Did trading Oswalt and #3 for the Phillies (outfielder) bring any good to the organization ?
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:19 pm to Klingler7
2015.
It's so hard to see a team who has been consistently good for so many years suck this bad.
It's so hard to see a team who has been consistently good for so many years suck this bad.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:29 pm to Haydo
The entire minor league system has to be rebuilt.
It will be a while.
It will be a while.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:11 pm to T-BRO
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The entire minor league system has to be rebuilt.
It will be a while.
This. Considering anyone worth a shite (and not...) is playing in Houston right now, the minor league system is EMPTY. It'll be at least two or three years before the Astros even sniff a decent record.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:26 pm to T-BRO
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The entire minor league system has to be rebuilt. It will be a while.
Well they brought in the right GM. That guy did a good job building up the Cards system.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:41 pm to JasonMason
Thanks for the input guys. I guess I will be able to sit anywhere in Minute Maid park for another few years. Damn..I hate waiting.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:45 pm to Klingler7
our top 5 guys in the minors could very well be legit players. They front office has said it will be 5-6 years so I am going to agree with that.
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