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Alabama’s 13 National Championships Debunked

Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:24 pm
Posted by timmeister
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Feb 2009
588 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:24 pm
I did a search and didn't see this article here....so sorry if Germans. Since the original article that is linked below was written in 2008, it didn't cover the 13th Claimed Championship. I edited the original article to include Alabama's Championship from 2009.

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13 National Championships? … The Real Story

I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 13 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.

To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.

‘THIRTEEN’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:

1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!

1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .

1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.

1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.

1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.

1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.

2009 National Championship- Their fourth legitimate NC. Their third Unanimous NC.

You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 13 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have thirteen and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can’t find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming thirteen.

Debunking the Alabama National Championship myths.

Bama…legends in their own minds!

References:

NCAA

Wikipedia

ESPN



Posted by CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:26 pm to
Germans. Look down, first page.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:26 pm to
you search for previous threads like my wife searches for her car keys.
Posted by timmeister
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Feb 2009
588 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:28 pm to
I was editing the article to include 2009 between phone calls and didn't realize it had been posted this morning. Oh Well.
Posted by tigerfan182
Franklin, Tn
Member since Sep 2009
2779 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:28 pm to
It might be Germans, but it is still funny to read. Where are all the Bama lurkers?
Posted by Champs
Geaux Tigers
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by mgmer
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2007
294 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:32 pm to
Now we know why all the questions!!!
Thanks, I never doubted they had 13, now I know they have four.
Posted by Sofa King Crimson
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2008
4134 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:41 pm to
NCAA credits us with 11. Most real UA fans discount 1941. It is a joke that we claim it. To the retards talking shite about winning the title and losing the bowl game, that is how it was done at that time. The national champ was chosen before the bowl games.

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We're going to make it 12 on January 9th
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:45 pm to
Lol he's gonna claim 12 when they win the sugar bowl!
Posted by Sofa King Crimson
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2008
4134 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:47 pm to
keep runnin' scurred, playa. We're gonna work y'all.
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
5498 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:56 pm to
Like you did earlier this year right?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18659 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:01 pm to
Gumps sound like a bunch of dumbasses whenever someone uses logic in an argument and the first thing they respond with y'all are scared. Honestly do you think the LSU team is scared of any team?
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21944 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:02 pm to
seriously?
Posted by towncryr
Mendoza Province, Argentina
Member since Dec 2003
3315 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:05 pm to
This is Fantastic!!

THANK YOU!!!
Posted by loopdog
Alexandria, La.
Member since Nov 2011
467 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:05 pm to
If the media has their way ,yes you will be unfortunate enough to get to play LSU again. If for one moment you think LSU will take it easy on you undeserving shites,you're mistaken.LSU will be 14-0 BCS,AP,Coach's,Harris poll and whatever National Champs. Alabama will be National Chumps. Beaten twice by LSU. Saban will hide in shame. Book it !
Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Alabama’s 13 National Championships Debunked



Posted by towncryr
Mendoza Province, Argentina
Member since Dec 2003
3315 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

We're going to make it 12 on January 9th


Well, if you do it will be bogus like the others. You've already been beaten at home by the team you 'hope' you get a chance to play...

But, Babalama Boy, since all you people like to cry 'fair, fair, fair'. How bout the best two out of three SHOULD you win, which I doubt. That is the ONLY FAIR WAY to settle this little debate...

Moot point, of course, we could play you 20 times, win 19 and when you won the last one all we'd hear is "WE WON, WE WON, WE WON!" As you walked away....
Posted by Moots
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2007
978 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:12 pm to
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keep runnin' scurred, playa. We're gonna work y'all.


You have to admit, at least Bama's logic, or should I say imagination is consistent.

If they can claim they really "WON" a game in which they scored fewer points than the other team (9-6)...Why not continue to stretch their version of reality and claim a long list of National Championships!

Wow! That Tide is impressive!

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