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The two best teams should play.... period
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:07 am
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:07 am
Forget the side-by-side comparisons, strength of schedule, better resumes, "they had their shot," didn't win their division, will play one less game, blah blah blah. At the end of the day the two best teams in the country should play in the BCSNCG.
It's an accepted "Fact" that LSU is the best team in the country. It only stands to reason that another team, with almost identical margins of victories against common oppenents, whose only loss was to LSU in a game in which they OUTGAINED LSU, missed 4 FG's, and lost in overtime would be the 2nd best team.
This isn't Ohio St.-Michigan from a few years ago. This is the SEC. 5 straight titles. The unquestioned, inarguable greatest conference in college football. Undefeated in BCSNCG's.
If Bama was in the Big 12, ACC, PAC12, Big10, Big East or any other conference they would be undefeated.
Do we penalize Bama because they happen to play in the same division of the same conference as LSU? The two best teams should play.
It's an accepted "Fact" that LSU is the best team in the country. It only stands to reason that another team, with almost identical margins of victories against common oppenents, whose only loss was to LSU in a game in which they OUTGAINED LSU, missed 4 FG's, and lost in overtime would be the 2nd best team.
This isn't Ohio St.-Michigan from a few years ago. This is the SEC. 5 straight titles. The unquestioned, inarguable greatest conference in college football. Undefeated in BCSNCG's.
If Bama was in the Big 12, ACC, PAC12, Big10, Big East or any other conference they would be undefeated.
Do we penalize Bama because they happen to play in the same division of the same conference as LSU? The two best teams should play.
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:11 am to genro
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The two best teams should play.
They already have. And there was an outcome.
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Do we penalize Bama because they happen to play in the same division of the same conference as LSU?
In this case they should be. I don't quite follow how a team that loses at home vs. a team that's been ranked above them all season, let alone didn't win the west, didn't win the SEC but they're going to just be "awarded" a trip to the BCS NG?
It makes no freaking sense. If it were any other team other than Bama, they wouldn't be getting all this exposure.
Bama had their shot. They lost. Go to the Sugar Bowl.
No, I'm going to forget the fact that we've already beaten them. There might be more of an argument if we were talking about a team from the east but wake up.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 12:15 am
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:13 am to genro
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OUTGAINED LSU,
So did Oregon and West Virginia. Know why? We had short fields due to our superior special teams. Same with Bama.
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missed 4 FG's
Missed 3 that were outside of your kicker's range. Your head coach should have punted for field position. The 3rd was blocked by LSU.
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and lost in overtime would be the 2nd best team.
More like quit in regulation and imploded in overtime. But, of course, LSU's defense had nothing to do with that did it?
We beat you IN YOUR HOUSE. How about we let someone who has a better resume take a shot at the Big Dog.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:15 am to genro
What you really meant to say was that the two best teams should play twice. But then you forgot.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:18 am to la_birdman
So, Alabama's biggest crime is being in the SEC West? Let's just switch Alabama and OSU, conference-wise. Bama's in the Big12, OSU in the SECW. Bama is undefeated, OSU lost only to LSU. Then, does Bama deserve a shot? They're the same team as they were.
The real question I'd like you to answer: Is Alabama the 2nd best team in the country? That, truly truly, is all that matters.
The real question I'd like you to answer: Is Alabama the 2nd best team in the country? That, truly truly, is all that matters.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:22 am to genro
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Is Alabama the 2nd best team in the country?
We don't know, truly...
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:23 am to genro
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So, Alabama's biggest crime is being in the SEC West? Let's just switch Alabama and OSU, conference-wise. Bama's in the Big12, OSU in the SECW. Bama is undefeated, OSU lost only to LSU. Then, does Bama deserve a shot? They're the same team as they were.
Yes, because osu would have had their shot and lost.
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The real question I'd like you to answer: Is Alabama the 2nd best team in the country? That, truly truly, is all that matters.
Not really, a couple of time in the past years the best team did nit make it in over the most deserving. 03, 06, 07 come to mind.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:23 am to jeepfreak
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How about we let someone who has a better resume take a shot at the Big Dog.
Do you honestly think 10-1 in the Big12 with a loss against Iowa State in overtime is a better resume than 11-1 in the SEC with a loss to LSU in overtime? You can't possibly think that.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:24 am to genro
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Is Alabama the 2nd best team in the country?
Well we know for a fact that they aren't #1. Let's see if someone else can play the game.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:25 am to genro
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Alabama's biggest crime is being in the SEC West?
Crime? I don't know about that but it certainly doesn't help them currently.
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Let's just switch Alabama and OSU, conference-wise. Bama's in the Big12, OSU in the SECW. Bama is undefeated, OSU lost only to LSU.
No, because that's not going to happen. You know it and I know it.
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The real question I'd like you to answer: Is Alabama the 2nd best team in the country?
Of course. The same #2 team that got beat at home by the same #1 team.
What exactly are you getting at? Other than 1 should play 2. Ok, that's happened and we beat them.
And? We're going to let them go on cruise for over a month while LSU plays a conference championship game and risks injuries to players?
Bama didn't even win the west, let alone the SEC. But let's hold the door to the Superdome open because they stayed at 2.
Bull freaking shite.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:25 am to noonan
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Not really, a couple of time in the past years the best team did nit make it in over the most deserving. 03, 06, 07
2003 should have been USC vs. LSU.
2006 should have been OSU vs. UF. (it was)
2007 should have been OSU vs. LSU (it was)
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:25 am to genro
ask any coach in the sec what their goals are and they will tell you win the their division, win the sec and then the national championship, in that order. Bama just gets to skip the first two for no reason? its like a wild card team getting a bye week, or just going to the national championship because hey whatever.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:26 am to genro
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So, Alabama's biggest crime is being in the SEC West?
Had they beaten LSU, being in the SEC West would not have mattered one bit. They couldn't.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:27 am to noonan
who was the most deserving in 06,07. i don't think there was any question that the 2 right teams got in.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 12:28 am
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:27 am to SammyTiger
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Bama just gets to skip the first two for no reason? its like a wild card team getting a bye week, or just going to the national championship because hey whatever.
Are you saying that LSU's SEC West and SEC championship (If they beat UGA) are worthless?
I don't get the argument that Bama get's to "skip" anything. They don't win two titles that LSU does.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:27 am to genro
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Do we penalize Bama because they happen to play in the same division of the same conference as LSU? The two best teams should play.
They
Had
Their
Shot
.. At... Home.
Scoreboard > stats
Wins > Losses
We penalize Bama because Bama LOST to LSU.
Keyword: "Lost"
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:28 am to SammyTiger
Guess who else doesn't have to play a conference championship game, and won't win their division? OSU.
Yeah, they don't have those. Which is more to my point, we're punishing a team for their conference alignment instead of rewarding them on their merit.
Yeah, they don't have those. Which is more to my point, we're punishing a team for their conference alignment instead of rewarding them on their merit.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:28 am to genro
There u go talking about your loss again. You gumps are so proud of your loss that you never mention your wins.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:28 am to rpg37
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2006 should have been OSU vs. UF. (it was)
LSU, arguably would have beat both at the end of the year. But didn't deserve to be there.
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2007 should have been OSU vs. LSU (it was)
Georgia was at least the second best team that year. But well, they didn't even win their division. Um...
Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:29 am to genro
Hey genro.
Say bama was in the east and undefeated at this point.
LSU and Bama play in the championship and LSU wins in the EXACT same fashion as previously..
Does Bama still get to play in the championship game?
Would LSU if the roles were reversed?
Say bama was in the east and undefeated at this point.
LSU and Bama play in the championship and LSU wins in the EXACT same fashion as previously..
Does Bama still get to play in the championship game?
Would LSU if the roles were reversed?
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