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Duke/Kansas and team defense....
Posted by GeauxWarrior12 on 11/23/11 at 11:40 pm00
Anyone watching the Duke/Kansas game had to be super impressed with the team defense by both teams. The ability the make multiple rotations and not miss a beat is so impressive and I think the majority of basketball fans don't really appreciate this. Good defensive rotation is far more difficult than knocking down 3's and high flying dunks. I just don't get how how true basketball fans can't see this.
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by Marty McFrat on 11/23/11 at 11:41 pm to GeauxWarrior12
I agree, both have pretty good help defense and know their assignments.
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by REG861 on 11/23/11 at 11:51 pm to GeauxWarrior12
that was just an amazing game from every aspect
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by ThaKaptin on 11/23/11 at 11:52 pm to GeauxWarrior12
Good cover defense and shot blocking, but very little in the way of getting in passing lanes and picking off passes. That's the main thing I like about Alabama's defense, they are constantly throwing hands around getting steals by invading the passing lanes.
Different styles of defense, both very effective IMO.
Bingo Couldnt agree more
Different styles of defense, both very effective IMO.
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Good defensive rotation is far more difficult than knocking down 3's and high flying dunks. I just don't get how how true basketball fans can't see this.
Bingo Couldnt agree more
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by Keys Open Doors on 11/24/11 at 12:12 am to ThaKaptin
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but very little in the way of getting in passing lanes and picking off passes.
They usually do this, but I didn't see much of it today, especially from Kelly and Rivers. I was disappointed because it is a great way to start a fast break.
And that's one of the reasons I have Alabama as a major sleeper this year (potential Final 4/Elite 8 squad).
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by GeauxWarrior12 on 11/24/11 at 12:27 am to Keys Open Doors
Just the precision in which both teams rotate is astounding. They make 2 to 3 rotations and everybody is where they are supposed to be. That requires 5 guys to be exactly on the same page and see the exact same thing at almost the exact same time. It is so hard to teach much the basics much less the ins and outs of true man defense. Amazing.
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by Jones on 11/24/11 at 12:29 am to GeauxWarrior12
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Good defensive rotation is far more difficult than knocking down 3's and high flying dunks.
well for a good bit of the second half the defenses didnt really matter because neither ball could throw it in the ocean.
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by rockchlkjayhku11 on 11/24/11 at 12:58 am to GeauxWarrior12
bill self's kansas teams are pretty much always a top 3-5 defensive team in college basketball. if you wanna learn how to play defense as a team, just watch them in any given year under self.
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re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by Bryant91092 on 11/24/11 at 1:00 am to ThaKaptin
I was going to post about how well Alabama's defense plays under Anthony Grant but I see you've already got that covered
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by Keys Open Doors on 11/24/11 at 1:06 am to rockchlkjayhku11
I am shocked at how well conditioned the starting line-up was for KU. I wonder if they can keep it up all year.
It reminds me of the 2009-10 Duke backcourt, where Smith, Scheyer, and Singler had to play 35+ minutes every game, but it's like that for the entire team. Hell of an effort and more of a game than I expected (conversely, I think I overestimated Memphis and Michigan).
It reminds me of the 2009-10 Duke backcourt, where Smith, Scheyer, and Singler had to play 35+ minutes every game, but it's like that for the entire team. Hell of an effort and more of a game than I expected (conversely, I think I overestimated Memphis and Michigan).
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by rockchlkjayhku11 on 11/24/11 at 1:13 am to Keys Open Doors
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35+ minutes every game, but it's like that for the entire team
it's our only chance at big time success (probably not that many minutes, though). the starting 5 is legit as hell and are gonna be able to play with anyone when they are on the floor. starting with the 6th man though, there's a very big drop off. naturally, self has known this all along (since mclemore's deal) so maybe there has been a bigger emphasis on conditioning and whatnot or maybe he took them aside and told them they'll play as many minutes as they can or some shite.
anyone that knows anything about kansas this year knows there are only 5 players, so it'll be interesting to see how the year plays out.
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by Bryant91092 on 11/24/11 at 1:15 am to rockchlkjayhku11
When playing that many minutes, you've got to figure they are going to wear down by the end of Big 12 play no matter how well conditioned they are.
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by Mercy Percy on 11/24/11 at 6:17 am to rockchlkjayhku11
Ku does well at holding the other teams shooting%under 50% for the game
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by Bho on 11/24/11 at 8:00 am to Mercy Percy
KU's defense didn't look great against UK. In fact UK's defense is very very good.
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by StrongSafety on 11/24/11 at 10:16 am to rockchlkjayhku11
my only fear is that Robinson and Whitney Wont be able to play as hard all the time b/c fear of foul trouble. They don't even have a legit bogbto back them up
re: Duke/Kansas and team defense....Posted by AMM AU9893 on 11/24/11 at 10:57 am to Bho
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KU's defense didn't look great against UK. In fact UK's defense is very very good.
It was good until UK started hitting every shot in the 2nd half, contested or not. Not much you can do
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