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Impact of New Recruiting Rules
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:15 pm
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The money won't prevent the $200,000 deals, but it will probably prevent some of the smaller ones and make the recruiting business a little more honest.
I think that the higher GPA rules really benefit the schools that already have tougher standards. Schools like LSU will have more trouble getting the kids that they want qualified, but the Vanderbilts and Stanfords of the college football world won't have to worry about that, so I think it helps them.
I also think that the new GPA rules will hurt the SEC and the South in general, since we have crummier schools than average. Not in a big way, but I think there will be a small impact in the long term.
Thoughts?
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Previously, high school seniors needed a 2.0 GPA in 16 core courses. Now they'll need a 2.3 and will have to complete 10 of those classes before their senior year.
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The board approved a measure allowing conferences to vote on providing up to $2,000 in spending money, or what the NCAA calls the full cost-of-attendance.
The money won't prevent the $200,000 deals, but it will probably prevent some of the smaller ones and make the recruiting business a little more honest.
I think that the higher GPA rules really benefit the schools that already have tougher standards. Schools like LSU will have more trouble getting the kids that they want qualified, but the Vanderbilts and Stanfords of the college football world won't have to worry about that, so I think it helps them.
I also think that the new GPA rules will hurt the SEC and the South in general, since we have crummier schools than average. Not in a big way, but I think there will be a small impact in the long term.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:28 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Thoughts?
It won't affect much of anything. The kids who are phenomenal athletes will still play big time college ball. Period. Big schools "make" it happen. No one can convince me that certain recruits grades aren't already bs. Now they've just got to bs a little more.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:38 pm to GOP_Tiger
Mississippi kids shudder just a bit more...
Pretty clear they are targeting the southern schools who get these minimum qualifers fairly often. The 10/16 before senior year rule I'm not understanding...is this like D'haquille Williams thing? Guys who go to unaccredited schools? I'm not sure how this really affects anything.
What was the previous minimum GPA for JUCO prior to this 2.5? Was it 2.0 as well?
Pretty clear they are targeting the southern schools who get these minimum qualifers fairly often. The 10/16 before senior year rule I'm not understanding...is this like D'haquille Williams thing? Guys who go to unaccredited schools? I'm not sure how this really affects anything.
What was the previous minimum GPA for JUCO prior to this 2.5? Was it 2.0 as well?
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:48 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Prevents a kid from failing his way through high school and then qualifying via a whole bunch of correspondence courses at the last minute.
The 10/16 before senior year rule I'm not understanding
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:59 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Prevents a kid from failing his way through high school and then qualifying via a whole bunch of correspondence courses at the last minute.
So like Eddie Lacy then
Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:57 pm to GOP_Tiger
Mike Slive had already passed more restrictive guidelines prior to this. I believe it was 2.5 gpa across the board and a hard cap at 25 scholarships per year. The only thing more restrictive under these new NCAA guidelines would be the multi-year scholarships but that will be decided by the conference just like the $2,000 stipend.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 12:02 am to thunderbird1100
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So like Eddie Lacy then
Hinders Saban from going after kids like Lacy and Sentimore in LA. I don't think it will hurt LSU that much considering how much Miles has scaled back on going after grade risks. Now if the kid in question happens to be Johnny 5-star then that's a different story and this kid will get lots of attention to ensure he makes the grade.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 4:09 pm to coldhotwings
Multi-year scholarships immediately puts even more pressure on coaches to accurately ID talent. The combo of offering players earlier than ever these days to keep up with other schools... plus multi-year schollies just made things that much tougher.
Increasing academic requirements hurts schools who recruit in the deep south as much or more so than other areas.
LSU has a large number of players who would not be playing right now with new academic recs.
This too makes recruiting tougher.
Everyone will have to adjust to them, but if I had to pick one conference this will impact the most it is the SEC based on how we presently recruit and manage our rosters.
The $2000 per athlete will just be passed on to season ticket holders. Lovely.
Increasing academic requirements hurts schools who recruit in the deep south as much or more so than other areas.
LSU has a large number of players who would not be playing right now with new academic recs.
This too makes recruiting tougher.
Everyone will have to adjust to them, but if I had to pick one conference this will impact the most it is the SEC based on how we presently recruit and manage our rosters.
The $2000 per athlete will just be passed on to season ticket holders. Lovely.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 4:31 pm to TigerCorp
The $2000 is going to divide college athletics right down the middle. Because of Title IX, if you give the $2000, you've got to give it evenly to male and female athletes. Do teams in the Southland Conference have a million bucks available to pay their athletes? If not, then getting an "athletic scholarship" can mean two different things.
One effect of this may be to make the "preferred walk on" option more enticing to those whose other offers are to schools without the stipend. Walk on and earn a scholarship, and you get back the amount you spent on tuition and then some.
One effect of this may be to make the "preferred walk on" option more enticing to those whose other offers are to schools without the stipend. Walk on and earn a scholarship, and you get back the amount you spent on tuition and then some.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 6:32 pm to GOP_Tiger
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he $2000 is going to divide college athletics right down the middle. Because of Title IX, if you give the $2000, you've got to give it evenly to male and female athletes
It will do this but it in no way will stop players from taking $200 handshakes from boosters or whatever other illegal benefits they get
Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:16 am to jacks40
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It will do this but it in no way will stop players from taking $200 handshakes from boosters or whatever other illegal benefits they get
That's true but the stipend was pretty much a compromise with the group of athletes that wants a share of the money pot. With the stipend, no one has any excuse of taking benefits short of having to pay for mom's cancer treatment. Violators from here on out will not get much leniency.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:20 am to GOP_Tiger
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The board approved a measure allowing conferences to vote on providing up to $2,000 in spending money, or what the NCAA calls the full cost-of-attendance.
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Thoughts?
not a lot of money, but an additional 170K per year that most schools with football teams will run in the red
Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:38 am to molsusports
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not a lot of money, but an additional 170K per year that most schools with football teams will run in the red
It's doubtful the conferences with these schools would vote in favor of such a measure.
Posted on 10/29/11 at 7:22 am to molsusports
quote:It's $340,000, because you have to give it to as many women athletes as men. And that's just for football. I've got to believe that schools will do it for basketball as well. And then what? Do you leave off the other sports and make them unequal? I think most conferences will choose to require schools to give the stipend to all athletes or none.
an additional 170K per year
Posted on 10/29/11 at 8:15 am to GOP_Tiger
Pay them whatever you want, but the extra 10k for special athletes, the occasional 200 dollar hand shake, or even paying for lunch at KFC (Greg Robinson) will not stop.
You could give these kids 10000 each and they will take the extra 100. They are 17-18-19 year old kids.
You could give these kids 10000 each and they will take the extra 100. They are 17-18-19 year old kids.
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