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Synthetic Marijuana, team rules, and breaking the law.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 1:01 am
Posted on 10/22/11 at 1:01 am
Taking Miles at his word, the Ware, Mathieu & Simon "suspensions" were an internal matter and nothing more. That means Miles likely doesn't believe what they did to be more than a violation of team rules. So how is "doing drugs" not against the law, but only team rules? Here's how this could be true, from this Coonass lawyer:
The term, "Synthetic marijuana" refers to over-the-counter group of mj substitutes that until recently, were entirely legal in all states, being sold in virtually every convenience store in the U.S. In August, 2010, Louisiana banned only five of the them, leaving many more still legal. Here's a link to a good article on Synthetic Marijuana prohibitions in Louisiana: LINK /
Interestingly, they are *not* illegal in neighboring Mississippi.
That leaves many more synthetic marijuanas that are NOT illegal, but, only prohibited by the LSU athletic department, i.e., they are all against the rules. What has likely happened, is that the named players only broke team rules, not the law, the SEC rules, nor NCAA rules... hence why Miles is keeping this as an internal matter only.
If this is a team-rules violation alone, a two-game suspension is not deserved, and very *unlikely*.
The term, "Synthetic marijuana" refers to over-the-counter group of mj substitutes that until recently, were entirely legal in all states, being sold in virtually every convenience store in the U.S. In August, 2010, Louisiana banned only five of the them, leaving many more still legal. Here's a link to a good article on Synthetic Marijuana prohibitions in Louisiana: LINK /
Interestingly, they are *not* illegal in neighboring Mississippi.
That leaves many more synthetic marijuanas that are NOT illegal, but, only prohibited by the LSU athletic department, i.e., they are all against the rules. What has likely happened, is that the named players only broke team rules, not the law, the SEC rules, nor NCAA rules... hence why Miles is keeping this as an internal matter only.
If this is a team-rules violation alone, a two-game suspension is not deserved, and very *unlikely*.
This post was edited on 10/22/11 at 1:16 am
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Posted on 10/22/11 at 1:03 am to BYULSUalum
solid 3rd post.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 1:12 am to brucevilanch
very good, first time warning. reporter jumeped to conclusion with the suspension.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 1:57 am to jeffsdad
Your explination makes sense from a legal standpoint, and I get the team rule/internal stuff, but my question/observation is this: why would any player on a team ranked #1 in the country, with a very real, legitimate, shot at a National Championship even consider doing ANY type of drug that could even remotely get them into trouble,(suspended one or more games, etc?? The same can be said for overdrinking,staying out entirely too late to the point it affects grades, performance at practice, etc. In short, doing ANYTHING that could possibly hurt your team??? 
Yes I understand they are "kids", make mistakes, and all that, but good Lord, have some self control. Let that stuff go until after the season and then party all you want to.
Yes I understand they are "kids", make mistakes, and all that, but good Lord, have some self control. Let that stuff go until after the season and then party all you want to. Posted on 10/22/11 at 2:08 am to BYULSUalum
Who has said it was fake weed that got them busted? I have seen everyone saying that so I will believe it but where is it coming from?
Posted on 10/22/11 at 2:16 am to BYULSUalum
You're wrong. It isn't illegal to have sell or buy it. It IS illegal to smoke it.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 2:18 am to lsu480
What OFFICIAL word from LSU that ANYONE IS IN ANY TROUBLE to begin with?
Posted on 10/22/11 at 2:21 am to tigerpiss
I'm with you on this one. I haven't seen shite about them being suspended from anyone important at LSU. Would not be surprised if they played.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 3:40 am to sowbugg
I do not understand either. Hopefully, its not an "entitlement" mentality. Hopefully, they realize they can lose it all.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 4:24 am to BYULSUalum
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The term, "Synthetic marijuana" refers to over-the-counter group of mj substitutes that until recently, were entirely legal in all states, being sold in virtually every convenience store in the U.S. In August, 2010, Louisiana banned only five of the them, leaving many more still legal.
Yeah, way more is being made of this than should be. There is no link between "spice" and weed other than the fact both are smoked and one is used to simulate the effects of the other. I have friends who buy the stuff at a local gas station. Certain brands are made illegal, but the producers just alter it to circumvent the laws.
A lot of people use this stuff legally. I hate that the news and other media outlets aren't fully explaining this and leaving this up to people interpretation. What do you really expect people to think when you throw the term "marijuana" into a situation where it doesn't belong.
This post was edited on 10/22/11 at 4:25 am
Posted on 10/22/11 at 5:15 am to BYULSUalum
A Bama player just got arrested for possession and Saban is keeping that an internal matter.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 9:00 am to ReauxlTide222
(In reply to ReauxlTide's comment that I am wrong.):
Wow... did you even *read* the link? If you had, you wouldn't be saying that I was "wrong," as I am pointing out that "it" (synthetic marijuana) is actually many different products designed to give a weed-like buzz when smoked, *of which only five have been specifically banned.*
So, it *is* illegal in Lousiana to sell, buy, possess OR smoke the five specifically banned synthetic marijuanas.
The point of this conversation is that we *do not know* why the players have been disciplined, and it is possible that if it were because of the rumored use of synth mj, it isn't necessarily so that such use was against the law, but simply against LSU team rules.
Is that clear enough for you? I *do* note that you are a Bama fan.
Wow... did you even *read* the link? If you had, you wouldn't be saying that I was "wrong," as I am pointing out that "it" (synthetic marijuana) is actually many different products designed to give a weed-like buzz when smoked, *of which only five have been specifically banned.*
So, it *is* illegal in Lousiana to sell, buy, possess OR smoke the five specifically banned synthetic marijuanas.
The point of this conversation is that we *do not know* why the players have been disciplined, and it is possible that if it were because of the rumored use of synth mj, it isn't necessarily so that such use was against the law, but simply against LSU team rules.
Is that clear enough for you? I *do* note that you are a Bama fan.
This post was edited on 10/22/11 at 9:02 am
Posted on 10/22/11 at 9:16 am to BYULSUalum
Synthetic weed is selling like hot cakes here in Huntsville. Last week the police decided to try & stop it. Good luck. 
Posted on 10/22/11 at 9:33 am to BYULSUalum
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Wow... did you even *read* the link? If you had, you wouldn't be saying that I was "wrong," as I am pointing out that "it" (synthetic marijuana) is actually many different products
BYULSUalum, that's a distinction. You'll realize soon enough that distinctions are too intellectually challenging for most rantards.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 9:37 am to sowbugg
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Your explination makes sense from a legal standpoint, and I get the team rule/internal stuff, but my question/observation is this: why would any player on a team ranked #1 in the country, with a very real, legitimate, shot at a National Championship even consider doing ANY type of drug that could even remotely get them into trouble,(suspended one or more games, etc?? The same can be said for overdrinking,staying out entirely too late to the point it affects grades, performance at practice, etc. In short, doing ANYTHING that could possibly hurt your team??? Yes I understand they are "kids", make mistakes, and all that, but good Lord, have some self control. Let that stuff go until after the season and then party all you want to.
could be : because there is a lot of tension surrounding both the Bama game and being #1.
could be : because some people cant handle success.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 10:09 am to BYULSUalum
im so tired of people talking about "synthetic" marijuana.
look, is huffing paint legal???
if huffing freon legal????
it is the same goddamn thing man. some fricked up chemicals you get into your body by inhaling them. this is not the kind of behavior you want your athletes engaged in.
look, is huffing paint legal???
if huffing freon legal????
it is the same goddamn thing man. some fricked up chemicals you get into your body by inhaling them. this is not the kind of behavior you want your athletes engaged in.
Posted on 10/22/11 at 10:16 am to jeffsdad
very good, first time warning. reporter jumeped to conclusion with the suspension.
The asswipe for the REVILLE is one of the aforementioned...what really bothers me, is everyone local and national wants to talk about LSU and this bs,..but NOBODY on gameday mentioned ALABAMA had a player ARRESTED, and BONDED out of jail for POT possesion....are they scared of the little man?..
The asswipe for the REVILLE is one of the aforementioned...what really bothers me, is everyone local and national wants to talk about LSU and this bs,..but NOBODY on gameday mentioned ALABAMA had a player ARRESTED, and BONDED out of jail for POT possesion....are they scared of the little man?..
Posted on 10/22/11 at 10:22 am to sowbugg
quote:
Your explination makes sense from a legal standpoint, and I get the team rule/internal stuff, but my question/observation is this: why would any player on a team ranked #1 in the country, with a very real, legitimate, shot at a National Championship even consider doing ANY type of drug that could even remotely get them into trouble,(suspended one or more games, etc?? The same can be said for overdrinking,staying out entirely too late to the point it affects grades, performance at practice, etc. In short, doing ANYTHING that could possibly hurt your team??? Yes I understand they are "kids", make mistakes, and all that, but good Lord, have some self control. Let that stuff go until after the season and then party all you want to
you obviously have never raised children or your wife kept shite from you or your kids were great liars and were lucky enough not to get caught doing stuff they weren't supposed to. the teen mentality is enough of an enigma that somebody should write a book. oh, wait............
Posted on 10/22/11 at 10:49 am to BYULSUalum
Wouldn't smoking, as in cigarettes, be against team rules? It's not exactly beneficial to your cardio system.
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