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Devil's Advocate for CBS Day Games

Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:13 am
Posted by Pwishik1
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2006
24 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:13 am
Okay so hold the phone - not necessarily saying CBS is the devil, although Verne Lundquist sometimes has that look about him like he could devour your soul and ask for a side of cole slaw...

But anyways, I like most of you despise the CBS day games. On the ground in Baton Rouge, it's just the most annoying thing that could happen during football season, aside from clock management issues, triple overtime losses, Lafellian fumbles...

I mean you get it. They suck. We are creatures of the night and we like our night games. A side of us comes out when "the sun finds its home in the western sky" Saturday nights in Death Valley. It's like feeding Gizmo after midnight...we become rabid monsters. And it feels so good!

So when we're forced to cut our days in half, postpone the tailgate for a few hours and start back up afterward, it just doesn't make as much sense as tailgating all day and picking up the late-night party after a win. It doesn't feel as good. It's hard for me to side with anything that takes away our beloved night games. But I'm going to try:

As an alum now living in Washington, D.C., I enjoy having the games broadcast nationally. There are two bars here - 18th Amendment and Arlington Rooftop - who graciously host LSU watch parties every game day, so it's rarely an issue that I can't watch the games. If I can't make it to one of these sites, however, knowing that the games are on TV is reassuring, and so far it's worked out to have the games played during the afternoon.

Who cares, you say? A lot of folks up here don't get college football, but people like me are in cities all over the country selling LSU and LSU football to people like them, and to tell you the truth they've started to watch. Games on CBS increase the national profile of our team, and folks have seen some DOMINATING performances. And if normal people are watching, players and coaches are watching, and they'll want to steer talent our way. All good in the end, right? No?

Let's settle, then, on cold hard cash. There's money involved, and we're getting it. And that's always a good thing.

Just think about it this way if you're still not convinced (truly, I'm not, but it helps me sleep at night if there's not a game on): CBS is picking up our games because we're playing great football. Would you rather watch what's shaping into an all-time great team during the day or those 90's teams at night? Think about it.

I also realize that since there's thousands of threads on here that most if not all of what I've said has possibly already been said. Which leads me back to Verne Lundquist. Is there anything he won't eat?
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:14 am to
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18th Amendment

Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34611 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:17 am to
I guess I ought to try the 18th Amendment...haven't been to a DC alum game in 15 years or so....
Posted by Pwishik1
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2006
24 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:19 am to
Had a blast there last weekend, actually split the game between there and Arlington Rooftop. The crowd was diminished somewhat but I think a lot of people were out of town. Both places have been fun.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34611 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:23 am to
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Had a blast there last weekend, actually split the game between there and Arlington Rooftop. The crowd was diminished somewhat but I think a lot of people were out of town. Both places have been fun.


I live up north of Frederick and normally go to Legends in NYC...can be there from my house in about 4 hrs...there's a group that i hang out with there...where is Arlington Rooftop in relation to the Pentagon
Posted by Pwishik1
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2006
24 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:27 am to
Wow you go up there for EVERY game? Quite a drive. I checked out Legends when I visited NYC and the folks are great and the place seems real awesome to watch a game at.

Arlington Rooftop is northwest of the Pentagon. It's a real short walk from the Courthouse metro stop. It's above a Subway restaurant, pretty cool place.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:30 am to
Here's my rub -- CBS usually televises one SEC game in "prime-time"(night) a season, right? How come it's never in Baton Rouge? Sure, they'll televise an LSU vs. ALA game at night, or LSU-FL, but it's on the road and not in Tiger Stadium. I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that either Bama or FL particularly care if they play at day or night, and everyone, including CBS, knows that LSU prefers night home games, so, isn't CBS being sort of dickish?
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 9:31 am
Posted by LoyalTiger
Member since Feb 2007
1491 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:35 am to
I think people get the fact that it's about the money and playing day games on CBS because we're #1 in the country is better than playing night games on ESPN2 because we're #15 in the country.

You bring up a valid point about the exposure to the casual fan and potentional national recruits.

But, if prime time games are more valuable to the network, which they obviously are since CBS is restricted to only 1 because of ESPN, then the SEC should squeeze more $$ out of ESPN and let them have the first pick every week instead of CBS. Give CBS the 2nd pick. More $$ from ESPN, less $$ from CBS, but as a whole we get the same amount.

The #1 SEC football game would still be televised to a national audience, only at night.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34611 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:38 am to
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Wow you go up there for EVERY game? Quite a drive. I checked out Legends when I visited NYC and the folks are great and the place seems real awesome to watch a game at.


not this year....will be there for auburn and bama...sec championship too

it's a fun crowd, there are three of us that have been meeting up for a couple of years now....
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23959 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:39 am to
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How come it's never in Baton Rouge?


Pretty sure 2007 and 2009 UF at LSU disagrees with you.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 9:41 am
Posted by LSUaFOOL
Jackson, La
Member since Jan 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:47 am to
I have no problem with CBS hosting LSU games. I just wish the rest of the country could see us at our best....which happens to be at night. Some may disagree, that's fine, but I have been to games all around the country and nothing compares to Tiger Stadium at night. It's just Magical. :

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Posted by garryowen
Tacoma, WA
Member since Jun 2011
305 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:52 am to
ESPN night games are a waaayyy better venue. I prefer watching the night games over that 230 crap any time. Plus, they can pay just a much money as CBS. No excuse.
Posted by Pankins
Flahrida
Member since Oct 2010
1174 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:53 am to
I agree with your point on exposure. My wife's friend is from New Jersey, and she has become a Tiger fan by dating another Tiger up here and watching LSU practically every week kicking arse on TV. I love having more fans, even developing into a national brand would be pretty awesome.

Coincidentally, we are also in the DC area. We'll have to check out Rooftop & 18th Amendment.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17500 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:00 am to
quote:

How come it's never in Baton Rouge?


Pretty sure 2007 and 2009 UF at LSU disagrees with you.
Posted by Specktricity
Lafayette
Member since May 2011
1232 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:01 am to
I've read something in the past saying the LSU - ALA game is not traditionally picked to be at prime time because CBS would be pitting the game head to head with a world series game.

I think that is a big reason the prime time game is always in october.

Posted by am4titansandlsu
The South
Member since May 2006
10616 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:03 am to
agreed...before I came to LSU when I lived in Tennessee I loved CBS games because it meant LSU was on TV. That said, now that I'm down here I hate them.
Posted by Pwishik1
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2006
24 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:04 am to
@LoyalTiger I agree with you. If the SEC is the dominant conference, a contract with ABC shouldn't preclude the games from being shown at night. But do we actually know the numbers on how many people watch which games? Do most people who might watch on TV go out at night, or do they watch during the day, or what? It's second nature to say the primetime game is the prime-est, but I would love to know the numbers on that.

But that said, the SEC may want to look at the way it structures the next TV deal and find a way to secure the primetime slot, since 1) we're the preeminent conference in football, 2) we almost always have a team in contention for the championship and 3) the other conferences are gunning for us and are looking for footholds in broadcast packages. We have to get there first, or at least, be the last ones standing.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 10:04 am
Posted by Pwishik1
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2006
24 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:05 am to
Usually the World Series is done by late October, and the Bama game is the first weekend in November, right? They shouldn't have an issue.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17500 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:07 am to
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But do we actually know the numbers on how many people watch which games?


Last year the most watched regular season games (not counting conference championships) were in the day. I'm not going to look it up, need to get back to work...

I used to live in DC too and you're right, most people do stuff on Sat nights. You get more exposure during the day. CBS is not stupid either.
Posted by Specktricity
Lafayette
Member since May 2011
1232 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Usually the World Series is done by late October, and the Bama game is the first weekend in November, right? They shouldn't have an issue.


Your right.
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