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Will the SEC pay 20 million...or wait 27 months?

Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:25 pm
Posted by vegas-tiger
NV desert
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Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:25 pm
I think they will pay 20 million before they wait 27 months for a current big east team.
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/27/11 at 12:46 pm to
Well personally, if it boils down to either of these two possibilities, and no other, then I'd have to think about it more. But I tend to be like most everybody else where immediate gratification is concerned. I like it. Haha!
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/27/11 at 4:13 pm to
I think they would pay the $20 million for several ACC teams before they paid that for WVU.
Posted by SportzBlogger1
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/27/11 at 4:37 pm to
FWIW - The way these things usually work is that the departing school from a conference that has a penalty fee does not cut a check to the conference it is leaving, but instead the conference it is leaving withholds future payments due from TV network contract receipts that are paid to the conference (and would otherwise have then been paid by the conference to the school).

For example, that is how A&M's exit fee to the Big12-2-1 will be paid, and the SEC will not be paying a dime of that fee in any way you look at it.

So, your query should probably be rephrased to ask if a school wanting to depart from the ACC (whether VT, FSU, Clemson, NCSU, or ???) to join the SEC will be financially able to forfeit to the ACC up to $20 million of the TV monies that such school would otherwise have been paid by the ACC (which the ACC would have first received from the TV networks). Given what might be significantly greater yearly revenues that the former ACC school would receive as an SEC member, that financial issue might be a "no brainer" to resolve in favor of joining the bigger money SEC. (If there would not be such a big difference to the school in leaving the ACC for the SEC, then that might keep the school in the ACC.)

Unless the SEC is DESPERATE (which it will not be, IMHO) to get a particular ACC school, such that the SEC is willing to pay money to the ACC on behalf of such school to get the school into the SEC quickly, do not imagine that the SEC would be paying the ACC a dime to get a school.

As for whether the SEC would wait 27 months (at this point that means waiting until the 2014 football season) to get a current BigEast school (for example, WVU), I think that is highly unlikely, for two reasons: (1) the BigEast might want that departing school gone much sooner, as seems to be the case for Pitt and Syracuse; and (2) no BigEast school is worth the SEC's while in adding to the SEC IMHO (sorry, WVU, you just don't provide enough added TV$$$$$ or fertile recruiting ground to make it worth it).

All of this is noted by me in passing, because it seems to me that the SEC's play is for Mizzou, as soon as 2012's football season, for a host of reasons ... and in light of my guess that the SEC is not going to 16 teams anytime soon, if ever.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/27/11 at 6:03 pm to
Conferences don't usually pay exit fees for new members. The closest I can recall to something like that was the Pac 10 agreeing to advance Colorado a portion of their first year's television revenue so as to even out the impact.

A&M and the Big XII have yet to negotiate their exit fee. This should be spelled out by the bylaws, but, the bylaws appear to have been written over a bottle (or three or four) of scotch, and are internally conflicting. On top of that, A&M is protected by sovereign immunity, so, even if the Big XII could persuade a court as to its interpretation of the bylaws, they simply won't be able to get a money judgment against A&M. That means all they can do is withhold the money due to A&M this upcoming year (and they may well agree to less than that just to get this deal finalized).

As to the ACC, when they increased the buyout, what they did was to set it equal to 125% of the final year's revenue, so it's actually a moving target. However, depending on which school you are talking about, if it's a state school in a state where sovereign immunity rules are similar to those in Texas, one year's withholding is likely all they would ever get.
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