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So where are all the pundits ripping Brady Hoke
Posted on 9/12/11 at 7:58 am
Posted on 9/12/11 at 7:58 am
for tossing that fade rout with 8 seconds left down by 3? I seem to remember hearing how reckless and borderline stupid it was for Miles to do the same against Auburn in 2007.
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:04 am to Turbeauxdog
come on its his 1st year, night game big house on national tv not going to happenPosted on 9/12/11 at 8:05 am to Turbeauxdog
and the way it was tossed up, it could have easily been intercepted.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:06 am to Turbeauxdog
ummm...lsu v. auburn the field goal would have won the game. michigan game it would have tied the game?
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:07 am to Turbeauxdog
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I seem to remember hearing how reckless and borderline stupid it was for Miles to do the same against Auburn in 2007.
I thought the same thing when it happened.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:08 am to L5UT1ger
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ummm...lsu v. auburn the field goal would have won the game. michigan game it would have tied the game?
The point is there was time as well for another play (FG) if that were an incompletion - something that has not quite registered in the minds of the media and our opponent fanbases
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:08 am to Turbeauxdog
I said the exact same thing to the guys I was watching the game with.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:13 am to MFn GIMP
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I said the exact same thing to the guys I was watching the game with.
+1 - But they shouldn't be ripping Hoke - good call just like Miles made a good call.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:14 am to L5UT1ger
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ummm...lsu v. auburn the field goal would have won the game. michigan game it would have tied the game?
Ummm.. LSU's FG was much farther. Bad post.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:30 am to trex1230
Michigan never offered les the job. Look at hoykes salary, the ad is a business guy, do the math. They never offered it to les it was only out of respect they talked to him at all.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:37 am to golf teaching pro
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Michigan never offered les the job. Look at hoykes salary, the ad is a business guy, do the math. They never offered it to les it was only out of respect they talked to him at all.
lolwut?
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:42 am to CalTiger
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The point is there was time as well for another play (FG) if that were an incompletion - something that has not quite registered in the minds of the media and our opponent fanbases
The issue for me then, as it is now, was NEVER about the time issue. It was the fact that so many bad things could have happened not including running out of time. There could have been a bad snap...there could have been a sack...there could have been a pick (after all, it's not like D Byrd was wide arse open), etc. shite...and incompletion and time running out was the least of our worries on that play.
I love me some Les Miles, and I've never ragged the guy the entire time he's been here...but that one play is one that to this day when they show it as a highlight of our 4th Quarters in TS I just cringe. The fact that it worked out didn't make it a solid play call.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:47 am to Turbeauxdog
Never seen so many passes thrown up for grabs in my life. Denard Robinson is very lucky Notre Dame's defensive backs are terrible.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:51 am to GeauxTigerTM
Two chances to win versus one.
The only other option was an out, but if someone is caught in bounds it is over. Endzone was the safest call. It was the right call.
I would never think you should hinge the game on a 40 yard FG until it was your last option.
The only other option was an out, but if someone is caught in bounds it is over. Endzone was the safest call. It was the right call.
I would never think you should hinge the game on a 40 yard FG until it was your last option.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:57 am to Turbeauxdog
Pretty big difference between the 2. I think the main beef with Auburn 07 was we had time to play it safer and run a few more plays, possibly get a first down and closer to the endzone. We let about 20-30 seconds run off the clock if I remember correctly before snapping it and basically said it's either this play or a long field goal. Yes it worked out but was a pretty crazy call.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:01 am to trex1230
quote:Crowton made the call, not Miles. Miles actually looked like he had no clue what was actually happening. Flynn took to long to set up the play, that was not Crowton or Miles fault.
- good call just like Miles made a good call.
It was a good play call, ultimately executed, but poorly planned. Had it been done correctly and incomplete, there would have been 5-10 seconds left on the clock to kick the field goal. It worked out- due to partly luck, partly guts, partly talent. A similar story could be used to describe Mile's entire tenure at LSU.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:22 am to Mindenfan
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Denard Robinson is the worst passer I have seen yet this year.
He missed about 9 WIDE open chances. If I were Notre Dame's DC, I would have told my guys to stand 5 yards behind the receiver and just play centerfield.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:23 am to Turbeauxdog
Heard Mike and Mike this morning say it was dangerous because of the time left. But the reason you probably aren't hearing it on the Tiger Rant is because this deals with Michigan--not LSU.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:29 am to CalTiger
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The point is there was time as well for another play (FG) if that were an incompletion - something that has not quite registered in the minds of the media and our opponent fanbases
The OP says that Michigan was just as "dumb" because they threw a fade with 8 seconds while down three. One difference between that game and LSU v. AU in 2007 is significant. LSU was down one point, while Michigan was down 3. Thus, a field goal wins it for LSU while it only ties it for Michigan. This is why the media is not all over Hoke. I am not debating the merits of the LSU play. I am simply trying to answer the original poster's question.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:30 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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due to partly luck, partly guts, partly talent. A similar story could be used to describe Mile's entire tenure at LSU.
You guys.
You and your cosmic lucky theory to success. Yall should write a book.
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