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Weil: Curse the Geniuses Who Gave Us Bank of America

Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:50 am
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9177 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 10:50 am
Where is the reality in BAC's management mindset? The market valuation compared to management assertions of book value remains staggering. When zero credibility exists how does management stay in place?

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At $9.85 a share, down 26 percent this year, Bank of America finished yesterday with a market capitalization of $99.8 billion. That’s an astonishingly low 49 percent of the company’s $205.6 billion book value, or common shareholder equity, as of June 30. As far as the market is concerned, more than half of the company’s book value is bogus, due to overstated assets, understated liabilities, or some combination of the two.


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As recently as late 2010, Bank of America still clung to the position that none of the $4.4 billion of goodwill from its 2008 purchase of Countrywide Financial Corp. had lost a dollar of value. Chief Executive Officer Brian Moynihan also was telling investors the bank would boost its penny-a-share quarterly dividend “as fast as we can” and that he didn’t “see anything that would stop us.” Both notions proved to be nonsense.


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The goodwill from Countrywide, one of the most disastrous corporate acquisitions in U.S. history, now has been written off entirely, via impairment charges that were long overdue. And, thankfully, Bank of America’s regulators in March rejected the company’s dividend plans, in an outburst of common sense.

Last fall, Bank of America also was telling investors it probably would incur no more than $4.4 billion of costs from repurchasing defective mortgages that were sold to investors. Since then the company has recognized an additional $19.2 billion of such expenses, with no end in sight.



Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15042 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:14 am to
It's like Wile E. Coyote. They think if they don't look down, they won't fall.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 1:19 pm to
The real question is: Who's going to buy them when they run out of unicorns and rainbows to run on?

I don't think JPM would get by the anti trust litigation.

Will Goldman go retail?



....Sorry for the financial soap opera, I'm just bored.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11285 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 1:33 pm to
I don't know but I fear for the future of Charlotte.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9177 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 2:06 pm to
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The real question is: Who's going to buy them when they run out of unicorns and rainbows to run on?



Why, the tax payers of course, that's who and I am not being political. DMW, corpse, whatever- that's what it is outside the world of extend, pretend, and carry forever on the books. What's the current FDIC insurance fund level at these days? Being the FDIC claims it has a $100B LOC with the UST and is backed by the full faith of the US govt does it really matter? Tax payers, baby.

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Sorry for the financial soap opera, I'm just bored.


What's happened to those 12/hr work days you new hires were all fired up about?
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 2:14 pm to
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What's happened to those 12/hr work days you new hires were all fired up about?


They're coming. I'm just doing a ton of training right now.

It would be hard, but it's all been covered in the CFA materials.

I'm trying not to be "that guy" and have the other analysts hate me, so I'm just helping them all out with questions.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9177 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 2:27 pm to
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It would be hard, but it's all been covered in the CFA materials.


Nice to know you are getting early returns on all that time you put in on CFA study?

When are you guys getting the test results, any day?
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 2:32 pm to
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Nice to know you are getting early returns on all that time you put in on CFA study?


It definitely has. I'm only really working in about 25% of the material, so it feels good to know that I have plenty of reserve knowledge/potential.

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When are you guys getting the test results, any day?


Tuesday
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9177 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 2:49 pm to
Hope you have a good result, have to go f with contractor about something. Everyone wants $ for doing jack shite these days.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 7/21/11 at 8:47 pm to
AND to just pile it on THE Bank of America...

Via NakedCapitalism, this juicy little tidbit: Federal Home Loan Banks challenging the BAC settlement.

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The home loan banks, which invested more than $8.8 billion in the mortgage-backed securities, are trying to get access to more information about the deal by joining the case and said a reasonable settlement could pay in the range of $22 billion to $27.5 billion or more.


Naked Capitalism

John Paulson finally threw up his hands and sold.

THE Bank of America in deep doo doo.



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