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I need advice on ordering "specials" at nice restaurants.

Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:29 pm
Posted by BordyLSU
Austin Texas Baby
Member since Dec 2006
1314 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:29 pm
I have always been hesitant to order the special described by my waiter. The reason is that I haven't got a clue what it cost.

Problem #1 is that I guess I would feel like a cheap a#$ by asking. However, I don't like surprises when I get my bill.

I have talked about this with some friends, all of whom thought I was crazy and should just ask.

A few weeks ago, the special sounded very good, so I took the advice of my friends and asked the cost. The waiter had no idea of the cost and didn't offer to find out.

Was I out of bounds by asking what the price is for the special? Since the waiter has to memorize what the special is, shouldn't they also know what it costs?

Please help
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83521 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:31 pm to
The waiter should know the price. I always ask because sometimes the "specials" can get ridiculous.
Posted by Old Smokey
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
3588 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:32 pm to
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Since the waiter has to memorize what the special is, shouldn't they also know what it costs?


Yes, and not finding out is inexcusable. You have a valid point. There have been some threads on this at Little Village. Do a search for lots of information.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58093 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:32 pm to
Always ask. It should not be anything to be ashamed of.
A good waiter should tell you the price when they tell you about it anyway.
Posted by SW2SCLA
We all float down here
Member since Feb 2009
22804 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Always ask. It should not be anything to be ashamed of.
A good waiter should tell you the price when they tell you about it anyway.



a thousand times THIS
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4641 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:37 pm to
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The waiter had no idea of the cost and didn't offer to find out.
Sounds like you had a pitiful waiter.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:42 pm to
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A good waiter should tell you the price when they tell you about it anyway.


Most don't offer it up but they should always know the price.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25727 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:56 pm to
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Most don't offer it up but they should always know the price.
I would say about 60% do not offer the price when they tell you the specials.
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:10 pm to
When it comes to specials, I think there are three different types of restaurants:

Restaurant A has a special special because they either over ordered something, or it's about to turn and they will lose money if they don't push this inferior product.

Restaurant B's is on special because they can jack up the price and rip you off without telling you the cost up front. This practice has been discussed here many times.

Restaurant C's is on special because this quality restaurant showcases the absolute freshest ingredients they can offer you on that particular day (GW Fins as an example).

Ordering specials depends on the type of restaurant you're at.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101278 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:12 pm to
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The waiter had no idea of the cost and didn't offer to find out.


That's just dumb.
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
10700 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:17 pm to
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Restaurant B's is on special because they can jack up the price and rip you off without telling you the cost up front. This practice has been discussed here many times.


This is the case 90% of the time. In the good old days it was a specialty item they made a lot of that day and it was cheaper. My first advice to my children when they stepped into the grownup world of fine dining on their own, never order a 'special' without getting a price.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:18 pm to
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When it comes to specials, I think there are three different types of restaurants:

Restaurant A has a special special because they either over ordered something, or it's about to turn and they will lose money if they don't push this inferior product.

Restaurant B's is on special because they can jack up the price and rip you off without telling you the cost up front. This practice has been discussed here many times.

Restaurant C's is on special because this quality restaurant showcases the absolute freshest ingredients they can offer you on that particular day (GW Fins as an example).

Ordering specials depends on the type of restaurant you're at.


This just about nails it. I think more often than not most restaurants fall in to "group A".
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:21 pm to
Exactly. By assessing the restaurant, you can make an educated guess whether (for example) the fish on special was actually swimming within the past few days.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:39 pm to
Yeah its definitely a restaurant by restaurant thing. I check out the special, and if it appeals to me, then I proceed, but I really give absolutely no thought to price when I go out to eat, simply enjoyment. I'm not a baller, it destroys my wallet. But, if it sounds like something creative, I usually bite. I don't care if they ordered an extra 10 lbs of scallops and are trying to get rid of them, if they're good chefs than that's the kind of situation where you can really get something that is outside of the box, and those are the dishes that I seek out every time I go out to eat.
Posted by BordyLSU
Austin Texas Baby
Member since Dec 2006
1314 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:45 pm to
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When it comes to specials, I think there are three different types of restaurants:

Restaurant A has a special special because they either over ordered something, or it's about to turn and they will lose money if they don't push this inferior product.

Restaurant B's is on special because they can jack up the price and rip you off without telling you the cost up front. This practice has been discussed here many times.

Restaurant C's is on special because this quality restaurant showcases the absolute freshest ingredients they can offer you on that particular day (GW Fins as an example).

Ordering specials depends on the type of restaurant you're at.
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This just about nails it. I think more often than not most restaurants fall in to "group A".
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This is interesting to me. I always looked the groups as:
A) The deli type place that plasters the daily special on the chalk board next to the register (Price is right there )
B) All other restaurants where the waiter tells you the special. (These were my problem)

I never considered the freshness of the ingredients, though you have enlightened me. Thank you.

Do you have some examples of A, B, and more examples of C?


Thank you all for the comments. I no longer have a complex about asking for the price.
Posted by TexasTiger05
Member since Aug 2007
28326 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:47 pm to
I had flashbacks of Mike's thread when i saw your list.





I didn't ask about a drink special one time and it ended up costing me around $120. Now I always ask
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:47 pm to
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Exactly. By assessing the restaurant, you can make an educated guess whether (for example) the fish on special was actually swimming within the past few days.


Very true, but even at some of your higher end/respected places it's still not uncommon for the "older" product to be pushed out as "specials". Chef/kitchen manager comes to GM and tells him that the Tuna needs to be sold today, so he created a "tuna special". Profit margins are too slim for most restaurants to be chunking seafood in the dumpster.

The catch is that at some of your more well respected places their throwout date may be two or three days, where other places will keep that same product 5 or 6 days. I hated serving food for places like the latter, and I wouldn't heavily endorse the product if asked.

This post was edited on 7/15/11 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Degas
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Do you have some examples of A, B, and more examples of C?


A: Shenaniganz
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

I didn't ask about a drink special one time and it ended up costing me around $120. Now I always ask


Reminds me of sitting at Port Royal years and years ago after work one night and chatting it up with the bartender about scotch. Telling him I was enjoying trying new scotches and was trying to educate myself on the varying types.
Yeah. Dumb. Always ask price. 4 or 5 scotches later at $20-$50/glass I just worked the whole weekend waiting tables to pay for a nice buzz.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 7/16/11 at 5:36 am to
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you have enlightened me. Thank you.
quote:

Thank you
quote:

have a complex about asking for the price.
Bordy, you seem like a really nice and considerate person,,, you might want to leave, while you still are....
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