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KosmoCramer
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Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


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Jones
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


its where you go to die





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Mattdaddy311
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


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KosmoCramer
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I googled and didn't get much help. But thanks for make me aware of that great site.







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im4LSU
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its where opponents dreams go to die





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Tiger Authority
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


How many posts does it take to understand an LSU tradition? 31,000.





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Mattdaddy311
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But thanks for make me aware of that great site


no problem






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growler
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Elephant burial ground





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lsuag88
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Its where for years mainly unranked OOC teams get killed in nighttime games (no TV) !





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cajunTiger22
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


It was originally called Deaf Valley and it morphed into Death Valley or something like that.






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LSUTigerz
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...Death Valley. I know this because there is a 25-yard-long sign that reads, "Welcome to Death Valley'' mounted below the pressbox. Those are the little touches at which LSU excels. Most schools wouldn't even put up such a name. Others would just say, "Death Valley" and leave it at that. But not LSU. Here, it's "Welcome to Death Valley." That's beautiful. It's like descending into Hell and finding a sign that reads, "Satan Invites You to Enjoy Eternal Damnation." ~ Jim Caple






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MC123
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


There was a thread several years ago about the LSU vs Clemson thing and there were conflicting posts: (I would link to the thread but it is full of a bunch of IM'ing nonsense)

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LSU or Clemson...Who Has the “Real” Death Valley?

LSU not only shares a common mascot with Clemson, it’s often been disputed whose stadium is the “real” Death Valley. I’ve had online forum discussions on this topic with several fans. One attended LSU in the 70’s, and claimed to have followed the team since the late 1950s, said “It was Death Valley when I started school, it was Death Valley as far back as I can remember.” So who has dibbs on the nickname Death Valley?

It is commonly accepted that the original nickname of "deaf valley" was used to distinguish Tiger Stadium from Clemson University's Memorial Stadium which was called “death valley”.

It all sounds plausible, except for the fact that Tiger Stadium opened in 1924 with a seating capacity of only 12,000- hardly deafening. Clemson didn't become known as Death Valley until the late 1940s when the Presbyterian College coach used the phrase about Clemson's stadium.

The late Lonnie McMillian, former football coach at Presbyterian College, told sports writers in 1948 that he had "to take his team up to Clemson and play in death valley" where they rarely scored or gained a victory. The nickname stuck to an extent, but when Clemson Head Coach Frank Howard started calling it that in the 1950s, the nickname really caught on.

Furthermore, Clemson didn’t begin promoting the name until the 1950’s. This time frame is significantly after confirmed reports of Tiger Stadium being known as "Death Valley; therefore, there would have been no need to distinguish Tiger Stadium form Clemson’s stadium.

Former Advocate sportswriter, Carl Dubois, had a story on October 8th of ’07 in which he wrote of the late LSU AD, Paul Manasseh, having insisted LSU’s Tiger Stadium was never meant to be known as Death Valley and, because of the crowd noise, even before LSU added upper decks, was initially meant to be called Deaf Valley.

This line of thinking sits well with fans who believe the ABC Saturday night primetime telecast of the December 5, 1970 massacre of Ole Miss marked the beginning of the new nickname taking root. They claim that during LSU’s 61-17 route of Ole Miss, announcers Chris Schenkel and Lee Grosskupp erroneously referred to Tiger Stadium as "Death Valley,"


The story of announcers’ mistaken reference is supported in the book, Eye of The Tiger - 100 years of LSU football. In it we are told "The name Death Valley was used first at Clemson, and picked up by LSU when the original term Deaf Valley was not properly enunciated, and misunderstood." Most fans accept this belief.

As for Clemson, the term "Death Valley" comes from the fact that Clemson University's Memorial Stadium is physically situated in a valley. Furthermore, considering the university cemetery sits on a hill that once overlooked the field before the upper decks were constructed, it’s easy to see how the name Death Valley could have evolved.


Some things about Tiger Stadium that are not disputed among LSU fans: The preferred appellation is Death Valley. There is no better place to be on a Saturday night than a place that, in terms of general population, would be the sixth-largest city in Louisiana.







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MC123
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Tiger Stadium was never known as Deaf Valley and you will not find one word of it being called Deaf Valley until Marty Mules book comes out.


I have worked on the LSU-Clemson debate about Death Valley since 1970, here is what I have found so far:

The earliest in print on a LSU football guide you find Death Valley is around 1969.

The earliest in national print so far is 1966.

No where in all my research have I ever found Deaf Valley, but you will find the Deaf Dome starting around 1978/9.

And as I told Jimmy Hyems in 1984 "In the future you know someone will mix the two names up.

It took less than 7 years after I made that statement.

Also while Clemson got the name in 1947, they are not the first team to have their stadium called Death Valley, that was a team in the NE around 1910.

And as I posted here before in 1970 channel 9 did a story on the Grantland Rice bowl, in that story they (Channel 9) said he named Tiger Stadium Death Valley.

As his articles have not all been indexed, and are hard to research; I have not found this article if it is truly out there to be found.

I come across Grantland articles on LSU every year I haven't seen before.

I have his articles (3) on the 1908 team and the one on Abe from the late 30's.

I can tell you a number of people I know from LSU in the late 50's and early 60's all say LSU was never known as Deaf Valley, that is students, SID people, teachers etc.

A few say Tiger stadium was known as Death Valley even in the 1940's, I can not prove this in print for now.

Just say before 1960 the fans called Tiger Stadium, Death Valley.

As to Paul saying it was Deaf Valley Carl is misremembering, I talked with Paul on this very subject in 1975 (Clemson-LSU debate).






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leesvilletiger
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


Read Charge of the light brigade not sure when it was coined but that's where it came from





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MetryTyger
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


I remember like it was this morning that Dec 5, 1970 Saturday night, prime time ABC broadcast with Chris Schenkel and Lee Grosscup calling
the LSU-Ole Miss game, which was for the SEC title as both teams were 5-0 in the conference.

I distinctly remember both making reference to Tiger Stadium as "Death Valley" that night, as it was probably the second loudest game in LSU history to that point. It was deafening, even coming across the TV screen.

With the score 61-17, LSU DB Pat Lyons returning back-up Ole Miss QB Shug Chumbler's last pass 60 yards to the Ole Miss 1 yard line with 37 seconds left. Thousands of students and oranges hit the
field instantaneously and the game was called.
If it weren't for that last gasp tackle and a couple of fumbles in OM territory very early in the game, LSU might have reached 100.

I think it was Schenkel who then said, "It's raining oranges in Death Valley tonight."






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geauxtigahs87
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


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its where opponents dreams go to die






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bootyswamper
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


might find something in here





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ZereauxSum
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Clemson


We need a home and away with those frickers so we can settle this beef once and for all.






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hypotenuse1
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


Ok------This is simple to answer this debate (which is the true Death Valley) would an opponent prefer to play at Clemson University's Memorial Stadium or Tiger Stadium.

Answer-------Clemson. I have attended several games there with friends who graduated from Clemson and I can tell you first hand it is No Death Valley!--------It’s Laughable!






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TxTiger82
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re: Why is Tiger Stadium called Death Valley?


Lots of teams borrowed traditions from Clemson. For example, Auburn borrowed their color orange and their mascot, the Tigers.

Pretty sure we borrowed Death Valley from them.






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