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Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:17 am
Posted by turbotiger
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:17 am
I made my first batch of ale Sunday and now I have it in the primary fermentor. I was wondering if It is necessary to move it to a secondary fermentor as the instructions say. I've read a lot of article for and against this practice. Also where do most of y'all get your brew supplies, on line or from a local store?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:25 am to
It isn't absolutely necessary, but it'll help reduce a lot of sediment if you do it right. Depending on your fermenting vessels it can make bottling a lot easier too.

I use glass carboys as primary and a bottling bucket as the secondary so I will do it just to make bottling easier.

And I get ingredients/supplies from either Austin Homebrew online or Marcello's locally.
Posted by Grilled Bald Eagle
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:33 am to
quote:

It isn't absolutely necessary, but it'll help reduce a lot of sediment if you do it right.


Also if you've made a high gravity beer, you may want to let the flavor mellow a bit. Its best to get the beer off of the spent yeast/trub to do this so you don't pick up any off flavors.

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And I get ingredients/supplies from either Austin Homebrew online or Marcello's locally.


Northern Brewer, Williams, MoreBeer, and Midwest are also good online suppliers. Marcello's is good on brewday when you have a "dammit, I need some 'X' and I forgot to order it" moment. And you will have those moments.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:34 am to
I've always moved it to secondary. It gets the beer from sitting on the trub too long I think.
I've used Morebeer.com and Northernbrewer.com to get my supplies, but Macellos has a good bit of stuff if you need it in a pinch.
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 8:34 am to
What kind of ale?
Posted by turbotiger
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:12 am to
It's kind of a non decript ale from homebrew heaven.com. I wanted a simple beer for my first one. I may go with a honey wheat for my next go round. Thanks for the advice guess I'll move to secondary in a week or two.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:31 am to
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Thanks for the advice guess I'll move to secondary in a week or two.


Make sure you wait until fermentation is done. A week may not be long enough.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I was wondering if It is necessary to move it to a secondary fermentor as the instructions say


Just bottled my first batch, and i did not do a secondary fermentation. From what i've read in 2 seperate books, for an ale with a 2 week fermentation period, you don't really need a secondary. For lagers, and longer period fermentations, however, you may need to.

I did not do a secondary, and so far, it tastes great, and i didn't pick up any off flavors from the couple sips i took. Now i have to wait 2 weeks until it bottle conditions.

In order to stave off boredom, i may make a second batch this weekend, i'm thinking a stout or porter.

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Also where do most of y'all get your brew supplies, on line or from a local store?


Austin Homebrew Supply for online - if you order before 4 (i think) on a weekday, they will ship it the same day. I ordered a temp controller yesterday, it will come in tomorrow. Pretty quick delivery.
If i'm in a pinch, go to Marcello's. They have a decent selection of things you might need in a hurry. There is also brewstock in New Orleans that i got all my ingredients from for my first batch. They have a good selection of hops, malts, and grains.
Posted by turbotiger
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Make sure you wait until fermentation is done. A week may not be long enough.

It say wait until about a minute and a half between bubbles or should I go by SG readings?
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:51 am to
I would trust SG readings. Really, 90 secs between bubbles is not done fermenting
Posted by turbotiger
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:53 am to
quote:

From what i've read in 2 seperate books, for an ale with a 2 week fermentation period, you don't really need a secondary. For lagers, and longer period fermentations, however, you may need to.

Yea kind of what I gathered from what I read. I don't mind ordering ingredient kits online I just don't like paying 15 bucks for shipping. I've been to marcellos and I was not impressed with the selection. Just trying to find a cost effective way of obtaining quality ingredients.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Just trying to find a cost effective way of obtaining quality ingredients.


Well if you are worried about shipping cost, then just drive down to new orleans and go to brewstock.

Brewstock webpage
Posted by turbotiger
In your liquor cabinet
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:02 am to
I would trust SG readings. Really, 90 secs between bubbles is not done fermenting

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I guess that's where my confusion comes in should I let it finish in the primary or secondary fermentor. If I transfer in a week or two then I will def wait until fermentation is done before bottling. I'm still on the fence Ill prob do it the easy way and skip the secondary all together.
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:03 am to
I only use a secondary when I dry hop. But I dry hop everything. I once dry hopped into my primary and it tasted fine. I get all my supplies local.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:04 am to
Personally I rarely secondary. That actually reminds me that I need to either keg a beer or move it to the secondary. It has been sitting in the primary for about a month now, which is typically my limit.
Posted by turbotiger
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:17 am to
Thanks for the advice everyone. Can anyone recommend a good summertime beer for my next batch. I'll get on it as soon as I bottle this one.
Posted by Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:35 am to
quote:

a good summertime beer


IPAs are good summer, winter, fall and spring.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:55 am to
Easy, simple recipe. I assume you are using extract. Fir the Carapils, crush and steep in water at about 155 degs for about an hour. Add the "tea" to your boil at the beginning.

Centennial Blonde

Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 6.57 gal
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 3.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 16.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 83.3 %
1.00 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 16.7 %
0.25 oz Centennial [9.50%] (45 min) Hops 7.8 IBU
0.25 oz Centennial [9.50%] (20 min) Hops 5.1 IBU
0.25 oz Cascade [7.80%] (10 min) Hops 2.5 IBU
0.25 oz Cascade [7.80%] (5 min) Hops 1.4 IBU
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 5/19/11 at 11:36 am to
quote:

I don't mind ordering ingredient kits online I just don't like paying 15 bucks for shipping.


Austin Homebrew Supply ships all orders for $8 (free shipping if your order is over $100). Last week I ordered some stuff from them Monday afternoon and it was at my house Wednesday early evening.

Posted by turbotiger
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Member since Sep 2007
272 posts
Posted on 5/19/11 at 11:38 am to
I think eventually I'll brew brew beer from individual ingredients but for now I'll probably stick to kits. Thanks for the recipe I'll save for future use.
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