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Student challenges prayer at Bastrop graduation


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For the first time ever, prayer will not be part of graduation ceremonies Friday night at Bastrop High School.

Principal Stacey Pullen said the school received an e-mail on Tuesday from a student who identied themself as an atheist.

“They said if we included a traditional prayer in the ceremony that they would contact the (American Civil Liberties Union),” Pullen said. “We asked our attorney about it, and we are making changes to the program.”

Not only are school officials dropping the prayer from the ceremony, they are being forced to have the programs for the evening’s events reprinted at a cost Pullen said is undetermined at this time.

Mitzi Quinn has been on the staff at BHS for almost 25 years, much of that time as a senior advisor. In the past, Quinn said there have been students who were atheist, agnostic and other non-Christian religions who “had no problems” with the prayer.

“They respected the majority of their classmates and didn’t say anything,” Quinn said. “We’ve never had this come up before. Never.”

Throughout her time working with the student, Quinn said they never expressed their personal beliefs or that they had any problems with other students’ Christian faiths.


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“And what’s even more sad is this is a student who really hasn’t contributed anything to graduation or to their classmates,” Quinn said.


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Here is the student in his own words:

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My graduation from high school is this Friday. I live in the Bible Belt of the United States. The school was going to perform a prayer at graduation, but due to me sending the superintendent an email stating it was against Louisiana state law and that I would be forced to contact the ACLU if they ignored me, they ceased it. The school backed down, but that's when the shitstorm rolled in. Everyone is trying to get it back in the ceremony now. I'm not worried about it, but everyone hates me... kind of worried about attending graduation now. It's attracted more hostility than I thought.

My reasoning behind it is that it's emotionally stressing on anyone who isn't Christian. No one else wanted to stand up for their constitutional right of having freedom of and FROM religion. I was also hoping to encourage other atheists to come out and be heard. I'm one of maybe three atheists in this town that I currently know of. One of the others is afraid to come out of the (atheist) closet.

Though I've caused my classmates to hate me, I feel like I've done the right thing. Regardless of their thoughts on it, basically saying I am ruining their fun and their lives, I feel like I've helped someone out there. I didn't do this for me or just atheists, but anyone who doesn't believe in their god that prayer to Yahweh may affect.

Moral of the story: though the opposition may be great, majority doesn't necessarily mean right. Thank you for reading. Wish me luck at graduation.

EDIT: Well, it hit the fan a couple hours ago. They've already assembled a group of supporters at a local church and called in the newspaper. I've had to deactivate my Facebook account and I can't reason with any of them. They refuse to listen. The whole town hates me, aside from a few closet atheists that are silently supporting, which I don't blame them looking at what I've incited here. Thanks for the support though.

If anyone would like to offer support, the superintendent is who I emailed and the school's website is mpsb.us

Thanks for the support. It's really helping. This has just gotten sickening.


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HempHead
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He needs to grow the hell up, IMO. No one is forcing him to pray. It's a bitch move.





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Antonio Moss
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They've already assembled a group of supporters at a local church and called in the newspaper.


I wish I had a lot of spare time.







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Tim
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What if it's emotionally distressing that the Atheist is imposing on my freedoms...this crap is getting ridiculous





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Antonio Moss
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.this crap is getting ridiculous


I agree. Public schools have no business implementing sponsored prayer. How can any school administrator not know this in this day and age?






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Tiger JJ
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What if it's emotionally distressing that the Atheist is imposing on my freedoms...this crap is getting ridiculous


That is a pussy thing to say. He should just stick to the legal argument. Seems clearly against the law.

I'll be interested to see how all the rah rah anti-flag burning people come down on this one.






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Esarhaddon
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“And what’s even more sad is this is a student who really hasn’t contributed anything to graduation or to their classmates,” Quinn said.







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Tiger JJ
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He needs to grow the hell up, IMO. No one is forcing him to pray. It's a bitch move.


What if part of the ceremony was a 2 minute gay porn video. Anyone who didn't want to see it wouldn't be FORCED to. Would you have a problem with that?






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Mike da Tigah
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People really don't like liberty very much anymore it would seem. Oh, I think they like their own liberties for sure, but not sure how much they embrace the concept of it for everyone and if they're big enough to really just let freedom and liberty do as it will as long as it doesn't do them physical harm. Tolerance has always been our stumbling block really. Many claim to be tolerant, but few really demonstrate it. It's all quite relative to what they choose to tolerate I suppose, and what elevates their sense of perceived goodness amongst their peers.







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Tiger JJ
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People really don't like liberty very much anymore it would seem. Oh, I think they like their own liberties for sure, but not sure how much they embrace the concept of it for everyone and if they're big enough to really just let freedom and liberty do as it will as long as it doesn't do them physical harm. Tolerance has always been our stumbling block really. Many claim to be tolerant, but few really demonstrate it. It's all quite relative to what they choose to tolerate I suppose, and what elevates their sense of perceived goodness amongst their peers.


Not sure what side you're referring to, although it's pretty easy to guess. The kid is not the one breaking the law by including religion in a taxpayer-funded education event. The school is. It has literally nothing to do with "tolerance". But since you bring it up, I ask you also: what if part of the ceremony was a hardcore gay porn video? Would you "tolerate" that?






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So this boy thinks it is emotionally stressful to endure a prayer but not as stressful for him to get his arse kicked? He is a bright one!





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HempHead
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What if part of the ceremony was a 2 minute gay porn video. Anyone who didn't want to see it wouldn't be FORCED to. Would you have a problem with that?


How could they avoid watching the video?

I hated the amount of religiosity in my high school, but I just ignored it. I can understand the legal argument, but I think it's odd to make a big deal about it.






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Tiger JJ
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How could they avoid watching the video?


By looking away - which is easier than covering your ears.

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I hated the amount of religiosity in my high school, but I just ignored it. I can understand the legal argument, but I think it's odd to make a big deal about it.


I'm kind of on the same page, but getting tired of making that concession. What is so hard about the school just following the damned law?






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LSURussian
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What does this mean exactly?

“And what’s even more sad is this is a student who really hasn’t contributed anything to graduation or to their classmates,” Quinn said.
Seems clear to me. The kid is a loser looking for attention.






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HempHead
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By looking away - which is easier than covering your ears.


Listening to other people pray isn't comparable to watching buttsex.

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What is so hard about the school just following the damned law?


It's Bastrop.






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Tiger JJ
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Listening to other people pray isn't comparable to watching buttsex.


Why not? Because YOU don't want to tolerate it?

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It's Bastrop.


Touche






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ChineseBandit58
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My reasoning behind it is that it's emotionally stressing

What would be even more stressing is if someone whipped his pansy ass.






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Tiger JJ
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Seems clear to me. The kid is a loser looking for attention.


What does it mean to "contribute" to graduation and/or your classmates? I don't remember receiving or granting contributions when I graduated.






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Antonio Moss
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I can't fathom why any religious person would be okay with a public school hijacking their religion.





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Tiger JJ
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What would be even more stressing is if someone whipped his pansy ass.


Certainly seems like a fine, Christian response.






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