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UConn not a unanimous #1
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:34 pm
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Ohio State received the other #1 vote. Even with the NCAA tournament in basketball, you can't get a unanimous champion.
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The 31 Division I coaches voting in the poll are not obligated to vote for the NCAA tournament champion as No. 1 on the final ballot of the season.
Ohio State received the other #1 vote. Even with the NCAA tournament in basketball, you can't get a unanimous champion.
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:35 pm to GeauxTigersLee
wow, that really is pathetic. 
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:35 pm to GeauxTigersLee
You wouldn't get a unanimous champion in football if the contract didn't mandate that people vote for the winner of the BCS game...
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:36 pm to GeauxTigersLee
Eh, the polls really don't matter since the NCAA officially awards a National Champion trophy for basketball.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:36 pm to GeauxTigersLee
The thing I found more comical was VCU making Final 4 then being ranked 6 in Final Poll.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:36 pm to GeauxTigersLee
:sfpboner:
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:39 pm to Sophandros
quote:and coaches still don't vote 100% within that contract.
unanimous champion in football if the contract didn't mandate that people vote for the winner of the BCS game
That's my point: it doesn't matter the system, someone will always find a reason not to vote the champion #1....whether that be football or basketball.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:44 pm to TopWaterTiger
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The thing I found more comical was VCU making Final 4 then being ranked 6 in Final Poll
that happens quite a bit, esp. in college baseball
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:51 pm to TigerintheNO
The only thing that matters is who brings home the hardware. By the way, didn't Miami receive some first-place votes in the final poll the year Warren Morris hit his home run?
Posted on 4/5/11 at 1:52 pm to GeauxTigersLee
FSU at #19 
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:02 pm to GeauxTigersLee
What a pointless poll.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:43 pm to Sophandros
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You wouldn't get a unanimous champion in football if the contract didn't mandate that people vote for the winner of the BCS game...
The AP votes a unanimous champion some of the time.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:44 pm to TopWaterTiger
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The thing I found more comical was VCU making Final 4 then being ranked 6 in Final Poll.
Why? Unless they played the 5 teams ahead of them there is no way to prove that they are better then a team that didn't make the Final Four. Its all part of the reason SFP calls it a terrible way to determine a champion because it rarely pits the best teams against each other to prove worth.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:45 pm to TotesMcGotes
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What a pointless poll.
Yeah but then you wouldn't get this bad boy
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:49 pm to GeauxTigersLee
I voted for the buckeyes
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:51 pm to Sophandros
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You wouldn't get a unanimous champion in football if the contract didn't mandate that people vote for the winner of the BCS game...
even with that you don't get a unanimous champion.
I have no problem with 1 vote going to Ohio State. UConn was not the best team in CBB, they were just hot at the end. They won the tourney and get the spoils that go with that, but that doesn't make them the best team. Rubber stamping the winner of the tourney is pointless.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
Yesterday I was honestly thinking about what would happen if an undefeated team that blew out everybody all season was beaten by an 11 seed or something like that in the title game on a buzzer beater.. and coaches still voted them #1, something close like 16 votes to 15.
So it's funny another team got a 1st place vote in the final poll. I don't remember the last time that happened.
So it's funny another team got a 1st place vote in the final poll. I don't remember the last time that happened.
This post was edited on 4/5/11 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 4/5/11 at 3:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
UConn was the best tourny team though, and better than most give them credit for. They were 21-0 out of conference, and were 14-0 in "tournament" settings. Using UConn is not the best argument for Slo against playoffs, IMO. I do generally agree that tournaments produce champions and do not identify the best teams necessarily.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 4:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Rubber stamping the winner of the tourney is pointless
+1
Posted on 4/5/11 at 5:41 pm to Tiger in NY
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They were 21-0 out of conference,
excluding the NCAA's how many good teams did they play OOC? UK and Mich State looks about it.
I don't care about the OOC vs Conf, they were not the best team for the entire season, just the end arguably.
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Using UConn is not the best argument for Slo against playoffs,
Its not playoffs, it the size of the playoff. The more teams, the more likely you get a fluke winner. I don't think one format is better than another at preventing accidental champs. UConn is not on the level of Villanova or 88 Kansas, but they were not one of the top 4-5 teams all year either.
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