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Homebrewing: Supplies/ Starter Kits

Posted on 4/5/11 at 8:03 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 8:03 am
So as some of you know, i'm about to venture into homebrewing. I've been doing some reading and am getting pretty excited about it. I do have a few questions though.

1) Home brewing kits - What is the better homebrewing kit to use when i first start out? I know there is one called Mr. Beer, but i see some mixed reviews on that one.

2) Do these kits include glass carboy fermenters? Or are they all plastic fermenters? Through my reading, i feel glass would be easier to use than plastic.

I plan on also getting a bottle capper and a bottle washer. What i want, really, is a brew kit that is very easy to use. I'm not talking very simple, but one where the hose isn't leaking, or the top to the fermenter doesn't seal properly. I basically want a good quality product. Any suggestions?
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 8:30 am to
First, How much are you looking to spend?

Second, That Mr. Beer kit is a waste of time, especially if you know that you are going to enjoy homebrewing. The Mr. Beer kit is to get people interested in pursuing the hobby. It makes 1 gallon batches and there is not much involved, just mixing water and extract together.

Get one of the starter kits that some of the homebrew supply websites have (NorthernBrewer, Austin Homebrew, Brewmasters Warehouse, More Beer, etc). These kits give you all the necessary equipment to start doing 5 gallon batches. The decision between glass and plastic is a personal one I think. Glass is easier to clean and will last longer, but it is heavy as shite and dangerous to be carrying around. Plastic is cheaper, safer, but will not last as long, especially if it scratches or discolors. (FYI I only have glass)

Most if not all of the beer kits come with a bottle capper, but probably will not come with a washer, so that is an extra you would need to look into. Just remember, that there is always more to buy when it comes to homebrew stuff. Welcome to the hobby.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52749 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:09 am to
I found this one online. This seems like a good one to get.

LINK

It has a glass carboy.

quote:

How much are you looking to spend?



I don't want to get ridiculous with it. But i'm not going to skimp out either. I am just starting out, but eventually i'd like to grow my own herbs for brewing but thats in the future.

Another future goal would be to brew some mead and maybe some wine.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:16 am to
That kit will get the job done. Essentially all of those kits are the same. It is a shame that you are asking today. Last week the groupon in New Orleans was a huge discount on a starter kit from Midwest HomeBrew Supply.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14689 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:16 am to
I bought the second tier kit from morebeer. I don't know any better but I'm happy with it I think.
Drank a 12oz a week early last Sunday and it turned out pretty good so far.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:19 am to
I have that kit.. Its a very good kit for the money.

I would recommend thowing away the book it comes with and getting the John Palmer book (its listed in the freq bought list) The kit comes with everything you need to do a extract brew (except the extract kit itself)

Only thing that would really be nice with that kit would be an auto siphon and a funnel and a carboy brush. But those are fairly cheap and easy to get.

Of course later on you will want a wort cooler if you get into it.
This post was edited on 4/5/11 at 9:21 am
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:21 am to
quote:

brew some mead


I think just for shits and giggles I will do a one gallon batch of this soon. I have never really been a fan of mead, but that could be because I have drank crappy stuff. I figure 3 lbs of honey is not that expensive so why the hell not.
Posted by thebhamdawgfan
The Magic City
Member since Mar 2011
660 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:23 am to
First, go to www.williamsbrewing.com.

Subscribe to their list. You'll get a quarterly supply magazine. One of the better ones.

Where are you located?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52749 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:24 am to
quote:

I would recommend thowing away the book it comes with and getting the John Palmer book


I have the complete joy of homebrewing by Papazian. It's pretty good.

Yeah i have a few extras i want to buy after i get the kit. Such as:

Auto-siphon, stock pot, Large stirring spoon, bottle washer, bottles, caps, carboy brush, and of course my malt extracts and yeasts.

But in the papazian book, i've been reading the beginner's brewing section, for brewing your first batch of beer. I've read it a couple times so i can get familiar with the terminology, process, and equipment.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52749 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Where are you located?


Baton Rouge
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:26 am to
quote:

But in the papazian book, i've been reading the beginner's brewing section, for brewing your first batch of beer. I've read it a couple times so i can get familiar with the terminology, process, and equipment.



That's how I started brewing and learning more about it. I think John Palmer's book is great but if you are just starting off Papazian makes it so easy.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:28 am to
I have a 5-gallon batch of mead fermenting now... should be getting close to bottling actually.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:28 am to
Bottle Caps typically come with all decent extract kits.

For extract brewing you dont need a very large pot.. If you have a 12 quart pot you are fine.

BTW I think that kit comes with packets of C-Brite. I prefer Starsan much more.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:30 am to
quote:

BTW I think that kit comes with packets of C-Brite. I prefer Starsan much more.


True story. But I think most starter kits come with the cheap stuff. Starsan is an extra that he will buy after his first batch, when he realizes how dumb using C-Brite is.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52749 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:33 am to
quote:


For extract brewing you dont need a very large pot.. If you have a 12 quart pot you are fine.

BTW I think that kit comes with packets of C-Brite. I prefer Starsan much more.


Which brings me to my next question. What are some good malt extracts to start off with?

Also, I was reading and they said when you are brewing, stay away from using corn sugar, and just add another 3 lb. can of malt extract. This sound right?
Posted by thebhamdawgfan
The Magic City
Member since Mar 2011
660 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:34 am to
Lookup Bootleggers Brewing Supply and Red Stick Homebrew (LINK )

THey should have everything you need right there in town. I know our local supply store has 100's of recipes of different difficulties and even measures out your ingredients depending on your selection. Should have different varieties of starter kits in store. Sorry if you already knew this. Hope it helps.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Lookup Bootleggers Brewing Supply and Red Stick Homebrew (LINK )



I'm all about supporting the local economy and all but RSH is closed at the moment and I don't think many people would recommend Bootleggers. So online is the best option IMO.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:38 am to
Marcello's on Perkins has an okay supply of malts/hops/yeast and some equipment if you need anything in a pinch.

I find that they rarely have exactly what I'm looking for, though.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Also, I was reading and they said when you are brewing, stay away from using corn sugar, and just add another 3 lb. can of malt extract. This sound right?



Adding extra corn sugar is a cheap way to increase alcohol. adding more extract is going to affect the end product of the beer in every aspect, not just alcohol. I would just pick a recipe kit from NorthernBrewer and go from there. Find a beer style that you like to drink and buy that one. It will end up being one of the best beers you have ever had and then in comparison to what you have the potential to make, one of the worst.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27060 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I think just for shits and giggles I will do a one gallon batch of this soon


Might as well go ahead and do a full 5 gallon batch. You'll be wishing you had that much in a few years when your mead hits its stride. Use good quality honey. None of that cheap stuff. Age 2 years minimum.
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