Auburn/Bama & Street Agents-Y'all can now STFU (link).....

they're just trying to get some the Rants attention off of them. Its a little sad...but understandable.

This shite is fixing to get real and it will affect many programs......

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It needs to happen to get these slimy Old men off the jocks of these HS players.....just sad

LSU is just as involved.

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If you do check out Dig on Wednesday, though, you'll find out who is really to blame for this whole mess. I can tell you it's not anybody in the SEC, or even the agents themselves. Some of these recruiting services and 7 v 7 camps are legit. They are just set up to be easily corrupted by guys with no morals looking to make a quick buck.

I can't see how a kid that committed to LSU so early in the process can be conceived as being "bought". I don't think anything illicit is going on with this. We aren't the only school that pays these services. It's all part of the game. You want to be big time, this is what you have to do. It may be bending the rules (slightly) but it isn't breaking them.

the article mentions $10,000 going to lyle's elite scouting service. lsu's reply was they deal with a dozen services. does anybody know if $10K to elite is an unusually high number?

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I personally on't think anything will come of this because it is so widespread and the NCAA has known about this for years.

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Well, I don't think any punishment against LSU SHOULD come out of it. Oregon, maybe, their payment was pretty high.

But, the NCAA is very hypocritical. They forced this whole situation into existence. To cover their own trails, there's no reason they won't come down hard on Oregon, and maybe others connected to Lyles, even if their dealings are only shady.

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If the damn NCAA is going to allow 7-on-7 tournaments for high school recruits to be held on college campuses without allowing college coaches to be present then they need to shut up and go away.

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I can't see how a kid that committed to LSU so early in the process can be conceived as being "bought".

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I don't think he's being depicted as bought. Just involved with a shady dude.

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We aren't the only school that pays these services. It's all part of the game. You want to be big time, this is what you have to do. It may be bending the rules (slightly) but it isn't breaking them

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Agree completely. LSU will not be the scapegoat here, nor will Oregon, in the public perception long run. The NCAA, well, that's another story.

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I think it is more like Will attaching himself to a recruit that has a father involved. This should help him because of his perceived ability to coax fatherless HS kids to let him train them. I think he just needs recruits with fathers so he will not look as sleazy. JMO

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does anybody know if $10K to elite is an unusually high number?

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It is not and furthermore all big-time college programs use the services to some extent. No one school is going to get hosed for the use of the services or their agents. The NC2a investigation currently underway is to determine whether or not to simply ban the use of said services, including the camps they sponser. Much the same sort of things goes on with the AAU basketball camps btw.

If you go to the complete scouting service website and go to the package price lists you'll see the amounts listed in all of these articles.

Texas,Florida,Cali and Georgia are $5,000 a piece and every other state is $2500.

Regional prices are $10,000(LSU either one of these or 2 of the big states)

The National package is $25,000 This is the Oregon number which makes sense if you notice that they recruit nationally.

As long as the service is legal and is under the guidelines of the NCAA then everything looks to be all good and the paper trails look at least on the up and up.The question will be whether Lyles or any other percieved street agent is actually pushing kids to certain schools.If the NCAA can't prove it then there's nothing to see here.All will depend on what the people interviewed have to say.I would imagine that the NCAA will crack down on these recruiting services.

Of course agenda driven writers leave out the fact that the scouting service websites lists their prices publicly.They have to make it appear to be suspect and a sneaky thing.It fits their agenda better that way.If Lyles and his service is trying to hide something then they're doing a terrible job of doing it.Also if they are favoring certain schools they're doing a bad job of it.It seems to me that any school willing to pay the service(and i bet it's most of them especially the recruiting powers)then they'll have access to the kid.This stuff is too widespread.The only way any school will get punished is if they can be proven to have had a kid pushed to them and not just recieving the film and evaluations.The NCAA can't put every school that uses these services on probation.If they did then the national champions would be very small schools or maybe a school like Vandy.Unless there is inpenetrable proof I think every school will get a pass this time and the NCAA will implement new rules to cut out these scouting services.