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Dan Le Batard--"New journalism is degraded by public’s demand"
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:32 pm
Do yourselves a favor and read this excellent piece from one of the last great writers in the business: LINK
A few excerpts:
A few excerpts:
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There appears to be a fascinating sexual tension growing between old journalism and new journalism. A startled and exposed Tiger Woods discovered this the hard way, when both journalisms barged into his bedroom together with a kind of zeal that had no precedent in American sports. The younger generation, led by peer idols like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian, is less repressed, less inhibited and less interested in previous rules of decency and decorum. New journalism is more voyeuristic, more reckless and more entitled. The marketplace wants, craves, lusts for naked gossip, and the result is Sports America keeps peeping in on the famous even if it means trampling the not famous, and fairness, in the breathless need to make private — and privates — public.
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The marketplace has spoken, so journalism shifts, by choice, by demand. Somebody will give the public what it craves, whether it is in politics or porn, because it is ultimately the journalism business, not the journalism charity. Young people and their word-of-mouth is what makes almost anything popular, so the choice for old people is to either follow or get left behind. Oh, you can object. You can tell the kids to get he hell off your damn lawn. But you and your sensibilities will die first, and the last sounds you will hear before expiring is the kids and their echoing laughter.
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There is the feeling that a divorced and broken Tiger Woods should have been more discrete, should have known better. But he couldn’t have. The rules changed on him, and for all sports figures, while he was getting undressed. And the lines journalism once wasn’t willing to cross keep getting blurred or moved by our nation’s TMZ-ization.
quote:I agree with everything he is saying here and the fact that he's saying it illustrates why he's one of the few writers out there who still views his job as a profession and a craft as opposed to a bottom-line business.
Let me tell you a story. John Amaechi of the Utah Jazz became my friend while I was working on a magazine piece on him. He eventually revealed to me, while still playing, that he was gay. I kept his secret even though it would have been a huge story. This was complicated as a journalist, but it wasn’t as a human. I can be accused of protecting him, of being biased, of not doing my job. He decided to come out after he was done playing. It would have been wrong to ruin or betray him, obviously. But it would have been rewarded, and never more so than today.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:33 pm to Jamohn
THE GIANT ROYAL PENIS
great writer
great writer
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:34 pm to Jamohn
quote:
Do yourselves a favor and read this excellent piece from one of the last great writers in the business: LINK
The same retard who reported that Harbaugh was going to coach the Dolphins.
He's part of the problem too.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:36 pm to SprintFun
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The same retard who reported that Harbaugh was going to coach the Dolphins.
He's part of the problem too.
Give me a break.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:37 pm to SprintFun
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The same retard who reported that Harbaugh was going to coach the Dolphins.
More like the Fins want him as coach.
Le Batard is actually brutal on the dolphins. Very very critical. The fins actually hate him and he calls them the dolphin mafia almost daily.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:38 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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More like the Fins want him as coach.
Nope
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4 p.m. update: Dan LeBatard, of ESPN and the Miami Herald, reportedly said on his radio show Thursday afternoon that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh has accepted the Miami Dolphins' head coaching position.
LINK
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:39 pm to RammerJammerBammer
quote:Clever.
Dan Re tard
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:41 pm to Jamohn
lebatard is a really good writer.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:42 pm to hendersonshands
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lebatard is a really good writer.
Obviously.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is the retard.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:43 pm to SprintFun
That is NOT the same as what he's talking about, though what he did there is a SYMPTOM of the problem, not the problem itself.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:45 pm to BayouBengals03
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lebatard is a really good writer.
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Obviously.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is the retard.
Agree.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:47 pm to SprintFun
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The same retard who reported that Harbaugh was going to coach the Dolphins.
He's part of the problem too.
He had a source who he trusted, and has trusted in the past who was right before, that turned out to be wrong once.
He's a good writer, and that has nothing to do with getting the story wrong on Harbaugh.
That said my only issue with that column was the notion that only young people are pushing the marketplace for news to such a sleazy place. He doesn't come out and say it, but implies it.
It's not just 20somethings that clamor for rumor, sex, and sleazy reporting. Other than that thought he was spot on
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:54 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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More like the Fins want him as coach.
No, I was listening to his show the day this happened.
He said something like "A listener emailed in who is never really wrong about this kinds of things and he said the Harbaugh will be the next Dolphins coach. So then I called a close friend who is in the know about these kinds of things and he told me to go ahead and report it."
I don't remember it exactly, but it was pretty close to that. He said on his show that Harbaugh "was going to accept" the job for $7 to $8 million.
He did "report" it. However, I don't think that makes him a bad writer or a part of the problem. I just think he was very confident that it was going to happen, and he was trying to do his job.
I'm sure you can listen to his show somewhere online and hear what he said.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 2:55 pm to tigerguy121
It should be noted that "New Journalism" and "New Media" are not interchangeable terms.
Journalism applies to a standard of practice, while media applies to a group of people or entities.
No one would have a problem with "new media" if everyone adhered to the old standards. However, the unintended consequence of the democratization of information is that some people will go too far. We're seeing that today.
Journalism applies to a standard of practice, while media applies to a group of people or entities.
No one would have a problem with "new media" if everyone adhered to the old standards. However, the unintended consequence of the democratization of information is that some people will go too far. We're seeing that today.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 3:03 pm to Sophandros
new media is partly a product of previously unheard of access to athletes via social media such as facebook and twitter. i'm not a credited member of the media but i can talk to Steve Nash or Jozy Altidore because we all have a Twitter account. on the other hand, what we're reading now a days isn't journalism, it's some bastard son of journalism. no integrity, "journalists" openly and dangerously rouse up speculation about where Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony want to play in a year or two.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 3:04 pm to hendersonshands
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Jozy Altidore
Who is this?
Posted on 2/14/11 at 3:17 pm to hendersonshands
Yep. And the problem is a good one, IMO. Yes, the product known as "media" will suffer a bit while we figure out how best to handle it, but I firmly believe that the democratization of information is good for the media in the long run.
BTW, I was having a similar debate with my younger brother (who actually works in the media...) a few weeks ago. He HATES Twitter, fwiw.
BTW, I was having a similar debate with my younger brother (who actually works in the media...) a few weeks ago. He HATES Twitter, fwiw.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 3:19 pm to Sophandros
I think stupid athletes should be banned from twitter, FWIW.
And I should get to determine said stupid athletes.
And I should get to determine said stupid athletes.
Posted on 2/14/11 at 3:26 pm to Sophandros
I think twitter is a completely different animal altogether. This is more about the erosion of the line between professionals and bloggers. Once the public stopped valuing and demanding the ethics to which professional journalists were once beholden in favor of the immediate but unreliable lowest-common-denominator brand of reporting that bloggers offered, professionals were forced to start competing with bloggers on that lower, seedy plane.
This led us down the slippery slope to the point we find ourselves now--where the pigs are walking upright and we can't tell the difference between them and the humans.
This led us down the slippery slope to the point we find ourselves now--where the pigs are walking upright and we can't tell the difference between them and the humans.
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