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re: School me on using a pre-made roux.

Posted on 2/9/11 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 1:41 pm to
I was saddened to find out that I would be dying a jihadist death Count. Being the eternal optimist that I am, I had to look for a silver lining.
Posted by SW2SCLA
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 1:43 pm to
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Is awful. I had this when someone who is a good cook made it. It didn't taste like gumbo to me. No dark roux flavor. Was like a cross between a poorly made gumbo and some sort of bad chicken and sausage soup. I just don't get wasting the time to make gumbo with it, but it's a personal flavor and some folks apparently like it.


I get that it's not your thing, but I think you're being a bit harsh. I use it often when I don't feel like cooking a roux, I've had gumbo made by others with it as well. I've never heard anybody complain. It's not as good as homemade roux but it's not near as bad as you make it sound.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 1:45 pm to
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Ignore that, Mr. Balls




FWIW, I'm a purist..
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 1:50 pm to
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I had to look for a silver lining.


Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner! Jarred roux and 72 virgins it is!
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 1:57 pm to
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don't use it
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 2:51 pm to
dude seriously? roux takes 15 minutes.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 2:54 pm to
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It's not as good as homemade roux but it's not near as bad as you make it sound.


It is to me, but I would never tell the host that the gumbo is awful. I'd suck it up and be a nice guest. If you like, by all means, eat it. I think everyone should eat what they like. You might hate my gumbo and that's okay, too. It doesn't have tomatoes or okry.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 4:21 pm to
I make my own roux too. It's one of my favorite things to make. I like slowly stirring a pot and drinking a beer or four.

I have mentioned this before, but my favorite jarred roux moment was on TV. Troy Landry of Peirre Part, Louisiana and star of History Channel's "Swamp People," is talking about Cajun recipes handed down from generation to generation while at the same time spooning roux from a jar into his sauce piquant.

This guy catches alligators with his hands and and wear white boots. That's pretty damned cajun. He uses jarred roux.

I bet his sauce piquant would be better with a real roux though.
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 4:26 pm to
roux is just flour and oil. So how is premade soooo bad? I bet yall use premade seasonings such as Tonys, Slap ya Mama, etc. Not that bad and I bet you can not tell a difference.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 4:36 pm to
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roux is just flour and oil. So how is premade soooo bad?


Not so much bad, just not as good. It's science actually. The oil coats the starches in the flour keeping your gumbo or gravy smooth. Those jarred rouxs have very little oil and there is none in the powder. Gris Gris already mentioned the flavors can be affected by the type oil you use. If you don't believe her, then you have never had a gumbo with a duck-fat roux.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 6:05 pm to
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I bet yall use premade seasonings such as Tonys, Slap ya Mama, etc.


Very very rarely. They're too salty for me, so I usually add my seasonings individually.

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Not that bad and I bet you can not tell a difference.


Not everyone can tell the difference, but I can and I have known it right after the first bite of gumbo when friends have used the jarred. I use peanut oil most of the time when making my roux, so that's probably why I can spot the difference. The veggie oils used in the jarred rouxs included a variety of oils like rice and palm and some other ones. I can't recall all that were listed.

However, if you do as I suggested above and darken the jarred a bit, plus add another fat like pork, duck, bacon, sausage fats, you can disguise the flavor of the jarred roux somewhat. I might not catch it. You have to work at it, though, so I just make my own. Some of my friends in other states like to use the jarred and I mail it to them when they run out. It's not a crime to use it.
Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 6:14 pm to
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It's not a crime to use it.


You mean, it's not a felony to use it.
Posted by bbqguy
uppa LA
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 6:37 pm to
The dry dark roux in a jar made by Kary's is okay. You just have to learn how to use it properly. I use about a quarter of a jar per gallon of home made stock and it works fine. I don't really want to make a roux on the stove any more. I did it that way for years and got tired of doing it like that. In fact, for years we used to put leftover roux in a jar to use later and it always worked fine. I like the dry roux now because it cuts down on the fat in the gumbo.
Posted by jeepfreak
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 10:09 pm to
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I am being lazy today and have decided to go the pre-made roux route to do a chicken/sausage gumbo.



Use the dry roux. The jar roux is usually a little stale-tasting, at least to me. The dry roux doesn't go stale.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 10:14 pm to
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The dry dark roux in a jar made by Kary's is okay


Kary's roux in the jar is excellent.
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5010 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 12:20 am to
I went ahead and made my own roux. Honestly you guys scared me away from the jar roux. At least with the roux I make, I know the gumbo will turn out great.

Anyways, I started it at 5pm and it finished cooking at 10pm. It was delicious and will be a hell of a lot better tomorrow.

Thanks for all of the advice.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/10/11 at 1:01 am to
Posted by jeepfreak
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Posted on 2/10/11 at 1:07 am to
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I went ahead and made my own roux. Honestly you guys scared me away from the jar roux. At least with the roux I make, I know the gumbo will turn out great.


If you don't want to stand over the stove and make a traditional roux, you can bake it in the oven without fear of it burning if you lose focus. Preheat oven to 350, whisk your flour and oil in a small cast iron pot(with a lid) and bake at 350 for 4-5 hours, depending on how dark you want the roux. It will not burn and does not require stirring.

If you want to go low-fat, let it cool on the stove top and pour off the excess oil.
Posted by tavolatim
denham springs
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/10/11 at 7:40 am to
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bake at 350 for 4-5 hours



Wow....that's a long time to make a roux.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
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Posted on 2/10/11 at 11:50 am to
Making your own roux is more of a traditional Cajun thing that most purist have taken as part of generations of recipes. I can go either way. The secret is to find a GOOD jarred roux. I say go with Cary's roux. It is made out of Ville Platte. The Savoie's stuff, like their sausage, just isn't as good. Once you have a good roux, whether it be homemade or jarred, the true taste of the gumbo will be made with the other ingredients-sausage, tasso, meat, seafood, onions, garlic, peppers, etc.

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