Strongest/weakest position groups in recruiting this year.

I think OSU has had a great haul in the D-line and no mention. Steve Miller, Bennett, Farris, and Kenny Hayes is just as good as NDs and Cals groups. Then we have Joel hale who people have ranked as a 3 but has offers from the south and they never leave the south for players if they don't think a guy is a stud

Well I think when you say DL you have to look at more than DEs but maybe that's just me.

Scout has OSU as having 2 4* DTs, 1 5* DE and a 4* DE. Give me that any day over 3 5* DEs and no tackles

Rivals has OSU as having 3 4* DEs, a 4* DT, and a 3* DT

You need DTs in a 3/4; In fact you need DE's who are almost big enough to play DT, and you need a guy who is 330+ too. They don't have that in any of their guys.

I'm not saying this class isn't great in the DE position, but they don't have a nose tackle so i agree more with the guy who said their DE class is sick. I absolutely agree with that

What is geez about that statement. Dareus is the perfect 3-4 DE, and what does he weigh in at? 290?

I'm not just making this up

"On the other hand a 3-4 defensive end is more like a defensive tackle. He must be strong at the point of attack and is aligned in most cases head up on an offensive tackle and must control runs gaps first and foremost. Size and strength become more of a factor because he plays in confines of line play and seldom is in space using athletic ability. Ideally this guy should weigh 275-290 pounds and be able to beat double teams by getting a push. It's a more physical task then that of a 4-3 end."

I know this article is old but the maxim holds true IMO

LINK

Do you or do you not use a nose tackle in a 3-4?

a nose tackle is a dt on all the recruiting sites, so you have to have one to run the 3-4

OSU plays a 4-3, and this class brings in 2 DTs, and 3 DEs, including a weak and 2 strongs. Therefore, they have a complete line.

Edit: i'm done arguing about this; I'm just saying that ND has a great DE class, not a great DL class

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You need DTs in a 3/4


the frick?

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and you need a guy who is 330+ too


the frick?

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They don't have that in any of their guys.


and ohio state does?

you opinions are very uninformed, no offense.

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the original poster is absolutely right. high school dt's beome college de's in a 3-4 (generalizing) and you need a big space eater. which is why you dont see as many colleges installing it as opposed to NFL.

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LB (CRAZY deep this year)

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all the more frustrating

lb crazy deep, go tell chavis to get his arse in gear and learn how to recruit.

Buckeye06,I completely agree with you on the DT part with ND.They don't have one in that group unless Carrico really puts on some weight.I do however disagree about the DE part since at least 3 of their guys will be playing LB for ND.For recruiting ranking purposes there DL class has to be tops but in line with where they will play then i would give Cal the edge with OSu right up there(I like your guys DL class a lot;sad thing is that next year's should/will easily be better with McMullen,Lewis and Co.;loaded year for DEs in Ohio in 2011).

NDs DE commits
Brad Carrico-will play DE 6'6 270
Aaron Lynch-will play DE but could stand up some 6'6 245
Ishaq Williams-will play OLB(Bama's Jack) 6'6 230
Ben Councell-will play LB 6'5 235
Anthony Rabasa-will play LB 6'3 230
Tony Springmann-will play DE 6'6 260
Stephon Tuitt-will play DE 6'5 260(if he even ends up at ND.GT is still very much in it

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GT is still very much in it

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really? interesting. where did this come from?