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Kragthorpe and Sanford and Fuente (Total Offense Rankings)

Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:43 pm
Posted by PetermanFanClub
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:43 pm
As Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators these guys haven't exactly set the NCAAs on fire. Below is their Total Offense rankings (since 1998) for the years they served as either HC or OC. Can't we get a guy with better results?


Steve Kragthorpe (Total Offense)
1998 Texas A&M OC #91
1999 Texas A&M OC #58
2000 Texas A&M OC #49
2003 Tulsa HC #51
2004 Tulsa HC #73
2005 Tulsa HC #39
2006 Tulsa HC #24
2007 Louisville HC #6
2008 Louisville HC #45
2009 Louisville HC #91

Mike Sanford (Total Offense)
2002 Stanford OC/QB #111
2003 Utah OC/RB #64
2004 Utah OC/RB #3
2005 UNLV HC #91
2006 UNLV HC #84
2007 UNLV HC #84
2008 UNLV HC #73
2009 UNLV HC #78
2010 Louisville OC #71

Justin Fuente (Total Offense)
2004 Ill.St OC/QB #39
2005 Ill.St OC/QB #5
2006 Ill.St OC/QB #8
2009 TCU CO-OC/QB #7
2010 TCU CO-OC/QB #12
(In 2009 & 2010 TCU was #1 in Total Defense...I'm sure that helps your Total Offense rankings)
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 9:23 pm
Posted by FamousAmos
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158718 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:45 pm to
Well..... I'm liking krag over Sanford that's for damn sure.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77313 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:47 pm to
Well obviously Kragthorpe looks better than Sanford. Using only the OC years for Kragthorpe shows he improved that offense every year he was there. And he improved the offense as head coach at Tulsa. The only decrease of success is at Louisville, could've been the situation.
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
4928 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:48 pm to
if our offense was just in the top 50.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22028 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:49 pm to
Interesting to me that Krags called the offensive plays at Louisville in '09 and was ranked #91.

Sanford took over the playcalling for the same program in '10 and improved to #71.

But, Krags does have the better career resume.

I'd pass on both...I hope Miles is working on something else.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9606 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:49 pm to
I don't know why the Louisville situation scares so many people away from Kragthorpe. I think there are better options but I also think he can be successful here.
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 7:50 pm
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 7:57 pm to
without seeing the line up of opposing defenses at a school that size, those stats are far from conclusive. Mid majors are out-manned in most of their OOC games.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158718 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:03 pm to
I hate to hold it against the guy, but his wife's situation also scares me a bit.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:04 pm to
didn't krag also calls plays at UL only the year they were #91?
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15574 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

I hate to hold it against the guy, but his wife's situation also scares me a bit.


Honestly I think this is the biggest strike. It's sad but true.
Posted by Patch
Westlake, TX
Member since Jan 2010
2654 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:12 pm to
Is there anyone better out there? These guys seem to be mediocre at best??? What about Fuente in the OP... What are his numbers?
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:15 pm to
Whats the situation what his wife?
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15574 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:16 pm to
recurring mental illness issues, it's gotta be pretty bad because it's affected his job
Posted by 704tiger
Member since Mar 2008
131 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:16 pm to
Scary in a very bad way. I don't understand the need to rush the hire when guys like Chow, Friedgen etc are available. Sanford head coaching resume screams hell no at least Krag's turned around a dormant Tulsa program and Gus M. won with his players.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

without seeing the line up of opposing defenses at a school that size, those stats are far from conclusive. Mid majors are out-manned in most of their OOC games.





aTm??
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56282 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

Interesting to me that Krags called the offensive plays at Louisville in '09 and was ranked #91.


There is sooooooo much more to being an OC than calling plays. In fact, playcalling is useless if the team isn't capable of executing well.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:27 pm to
why??? dear god WHY!!
Posted by Genghis Khan
Mongolia
Member since Nov 2008
1649 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:41 pm to
Those rankings are a buzz kill.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:43 pm to
Who's responsible for execution if not the OC
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