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Multiple is the word

Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:34 pm
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:34 pm
LSU needs an OC that can Run a true multiple offense. There is no "Power I or straight spread any more". I understand that people run more option or zone read than other people, but most college offenses are more multiple than any thing. Florida with Tim Tebowe number one run scheme was power "O" and the inside zone, both power running schemes. Florida just got to it in a different way than other teams. Alabama runs a lot of the the same schemes, they just do it with a little different look than Florida. "Zone is Zone, Power "O" is Power "O". The formations are just window dressing. It is more about forming a relationship with your players and getting them to buy into what you are doing. Rich Rod ran a lot of "zone read" and zone schemes are not that much different from team to team. Rich Rod's O-Line coach at West Virginia was Rick Trickett (who was on Nick Saban's original coaching staff at LSU) who now happens to be Jimbo's O-Line coach at Florida State. Trickett is one of the best zone o-line coaches in college football. The difference is the philosophy of the play caller and the team in general. The mentality of the offense is what is most important. It is philosophy not an offense. There is not a team in college football that doesn't run multiple formations any more. The menatality of the coaches and team is more important than the formations or plays. Every one keeps talking about "Pro Style" what is that? It is a mentality. Watch a pro game and see if they don't get into multiple formations. All they are doing is running a lot of the same plays out of different formations, nothing more.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 10:59 pm
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:37 pm to
No


Identity is the word and we have not had one in 3 years.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71254 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

The mentality of the offense is what is most important. It is philosophy not an offense. There is not a team in college football that doesn't run multiple formations any more.


YES

i agree 100% with your post
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6846 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:40 pm to
I'd rather run one offense well then run 2 offenses into the ground
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
916 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:41 pm to
IDENTITY IS MENTALITY, that is what I'm trying to say. It is not a formation or a play call. Ask any one who has played college football and they will tell you that is what it is about. When five O-Linemen are blocking zone(which is the most common run scheme used in college football) they don't care about the formation they are blocking it out of!
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 9:42 pm
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1519 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:43 pm to
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The menatality of the coaches and team is more important than the formations or plays


This seems counter intuitive since the coach calls the plays. English major?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68293 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:43 pm to
that is what we ran. Our offense had zero identity. If we want to run a multiple offense it needs to be ran rt with the rt personnel on the field.
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
916 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:55 pm to
So Alabama didn't run a multiple offense last year when they won the national championship? What about Ohio State? They have run it since Tressel has been there.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71254 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:00 pm to
I don't think people are understanding your post

Auburn had all kinds of formations and motions, but at their core they were a power running team. Their 2 best plays were the dive with Newton and the sweep with McCalebb.
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
916 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:43 pm to
Yes they were. College teams do not run a lot of "plays" they do it with smoke and mirrors. Sure there are spread option teams, true option teams, pro style, etc, but the actual amount of schemes that are used by different college teams are not that different. There is only so many different things in football. Run game schemes basically amount to three things; zone schemes, gap schemes, and man schemes(which hardly no one does anymore) Everything in the run game falls pretty much in these three categories for the big boys up front.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 11:46 pm
Posted by BRTiger2005
Member since May 2005
1270 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:48 pm to
TL;DR
Posted by MidLineVeer
Southwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
665 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 7:26 am to
Great post, I agree 100%. Aurburn, Florida and Miss St are more Power O teams, as stated by Saban in the NCG pregame. WV, Oregon, UM were more zone blocking. One thing I noticed with Auburn is they use some wing tee false pulls that I thought to be quite ballsy. This does make sense if your trying to take advantage of Oregon's quick pursuit defense.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32845 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 7:42 am to
quote:

Bird is the word


FIFY
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:07 am to
This is what Pro-style means it doesn't mean all power running. It means multiple sets but no read option BS.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 8:08 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171024 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:46 am to
NCAA 11 says LSU's offense is "Multiple" FWIW
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