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re: Story on Chris Garrett on ESPN OTL
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:37 am to lsu xman
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:37 am to lsu xman
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actually, JJ had a decent 09' season. Miles probably thought JJ was going to be a stud this yr, and he wasnt going to need CG?
Doubtful. I am sure the Coaches in practice saw the problems. If Chris was that great he would have been kept.
Les Miles is VERY MUCH a players Coach. For Les to do Chris wrong goes against everything we know about him
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Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:37 am to LSUFreek
Chris seemed awfully butthurt.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:40 am to bayourant
quote:I agree. The idea that Miles would screw over a player is completely inconsistent with everything we have seen from him in the last few years. If there's been a complaint about the man's treatment of players, it's that he coddles them and is too loyal to individual players. Chris Garret, on the other hand, has shown to be unreliable and inconsistent in his choices.
For Les to do Chris wrong goes against everything we know about him
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:42 am to LSUtoOmaha
I think the overall point of the piece was that the average SEC school is offering over 100 scholarships for 85 spots. That's not the way things should be done. 18 kids on average get fricked and are not warned about this policy upfront.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:42 am to LSUtoOmaha
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This post was edited on 12/19/10 at 8:46 am
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:43 am to LSUtoOmaha
This isn't about Chris Garrett and Les Miles and its impact on recruiting in the near term.
This is story is really about the practice of oversigning and greyshirting. Did you see the graphic which compared the SEC to the Big Ten in how many players they have signed. The big ten had 85 or so against the SEC which had 107.
Now if you don't think that College Presidents and Chancellors and SEC image management aren't concerned about the image of the conference as being football first and not caring about academics you're crazy.
This could lead to the SEC or the NCAA moving toward the big ten standard which could have a huge impact on the SEC beyong Chris Garrett and Les Miles.
This is story is really about the practice of oversigning and greyshirting. Did you see the graphic which compared the SEC to the Big Ten in how many players they have signed. The big ten had 85 or so against the SEC which had 107.
Now if you don't think that College Presidents and Chancellors and SEC image management aren't concerned about the image of the conference as being football first and not caring about academics you're crazy.
This could lead to the SEC or the NCAA moving toward the big ten standard which could have a huge impact on the SEC beyong Chris Garrett and Les Miles.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:43 am to eyeran
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LSU says he transfered. He shows a letter from LSU, on national tv, saying his scholarship wouldnt be renewed
Good point, but the letter might be a formality. For a program hurting for QB's, it's counter intuitive that we'd let one go that was earning his spot. And would be out of character for Les. Sounds like dude was scared Daddy would bust his arse for not putting forth the effort, and just went about telling whatever story he wanted to.
This post was edited on 12/19/10 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:44 am to eyeran
I am torn on this topic in general
Billion dollar NCAA should take care of these kid vs. What if a kid quits working?
I think the over-signing should be restricted more, but I am not ready to say I think you deserve a 4 year scholly for a great senior HS year.
Billion dollar NCAA should take care of these kid vs. What if a kid quits working?
I think the over-signing should be restricted more, but I am not ready to say I think you deserve a 4 year scholly for a great senior HS year.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:45 am to tossedoff
He probably thought canny cam was going to state and didn't want to compete.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:47 am to coolpapaboze
I totally agree. I mean this was a QB for goodness sake. Not some kicker or punter that Miles might have over signed
Why was it not mentioned that Chris JUST HAPPENED to end up at NSU that had JUST happened to have a former LSU Asst Coach as their head Coach?
After Perrilloux got dismissed Les made sure he landed in a good program and talked him up
Why was it not mentioned that Chris JUST HAPPENED to end up at NSU that had JUST happened to have a former LSU Asst Coach as their head Coach?
After Perrilloux got dismissed Les made sure he landed in a good program and talked him up
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:48 am to bomber77
quote:Of course you think that. You probably read oversigning.com daily. It's not the SEC's problem that the Big 10 has a rule in place. They don't have to have that rule. Much of our pain is self-chosen. Don't take your Big 10 butt-hurt out on the SEC. Either change your rule, or get the NCAA to make it a rule.
That's not the way things should be done.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:48 am to coolpapaboze
miles in a written statement to espn said cg was told he needed to change his behavior.it sounds to me like cg thought he was rp with out the talent,and he is prolly a spoiled kid who gets his way.i say f him hes an ole piss bear now.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:50 am to bomber77
I agree this is the issue. If miles signed a 100 then he plans to do what was necessary. Although, in this case maybe Chris Garret was comfortable skating as 3rd string.
Curious about the grey shirted kid. Does miles say you might get grey shirted?
Curious about the grey shirted kid. Does miles say you might get grey shirted?
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:50 am to Weaver
The coached and garrett probably already had the decision made and that letter was sent after that. He showed it like he was caught off guard. He knew and was likely told to look for another school before he was "cut".
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:53 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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This could lead to the SEC or the NCAA moving toward the big ten standard which could have a huge impact on the SEC beyong Chris Garrett and Les Miles.
I wouldn't get carried away with the stat they showed on OTL. (In the last four years, sec schools have averaged 103 signed players per school per year, and Big 10 had 86). They never said what the limits were, or what anomalies might be driving that number up for the SEC. Fore example, Bama and Ole Miss had a couple of huge classes that are likely skewing the numbers. And Big 10 programs top to bottom don't get the same interest from players. So I venture to guess that some schools signed fewer than their allotted amount, which pulls their overall numbers down.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:55 am to DEG
Big 10 teams don't get the interest top to bottom from players?
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:55 am to Mobiletiger
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The coached and garrett probably already had the decision made and that letter was sent after that. He showed it like he was caught off guard. He knew and was likely told to look for another school before he was "cut".
I was a little skeptical that the day before Les didn't tell him your done
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:56 am to bomber77
quote:i not sure i agree with your numbers are you saying 18 kids per school per year.
I think the overall point of the piece was that the average SEC school is offering over 100 scholarships for 85 spots. That's not the way things should be done. 18 kids on average get fricked and are not warned about this policy upfront
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:57 am to bomber77
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Big 10 teams don't get the interest top to bottom from players?
Right. Point is, the SEC is a more attractive conference for recruits than the Big 10. Disagree?
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:58 am to tigerswin03
Yes, didn't they say 103 scholarships were offered onaverage and 85 kept?
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