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Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:41 am
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:41 am
Rushing Offense – 32nd @ 203 yards per game.
Passing Offense – 115th @ 120 yards per game, with 3 five star starters. Pathetic.
Total Offense – 91st @ 323 yards per game. Again thoroughly pathetic.
Scoring Offense – 71st @ 28.67 points per game.
Red Zone Offense – 90th
First Down Offense – 94th

However, LSU does rank number 1 in the following two categories:

Most Conservative Play Calling Offense – 1st
Most Incompetent Offensive Coordinator – 1st

I don’t know how Miles can claim that every year LSU plays for championships when our offense and especially our play calling can only be labeled as incompetent at best to say the least. Especially when you consider that most offensive coordinators in the country would gladly donate their left nut to medical science to have just half the talent LSU has on its offense.

I mean with all this talent, how can we only end up with just 261 yards of total offense last night against Mississippi State? Only Less Miles coached football teams can manage to do that. Other coaches couldn’t be that incompetent even if they tried.

Now for the good news:

Rushing Defense – 16th @ 80.33 yards per game.
Passing Defense – 61st @ 199.22 yards per game.
Total Defense – 25th @ 279.67 yards per game.
Scoring Defense – 5th @ 11,33 points per game.
Passes Intercepted – 9th with 5 passes intercepted on the season. Florida is 1st with 10 passes intercepted.
Tackles for losses – 3rd @ 9.33 tackles for loss per game.
Pass Sacks – 6th @ 3.67 sacks per game.

It is clear that if we had more than an utterly pathetic offense, our defensive rankings would be even better, but all in all not bad when you consider how awful our offense is.
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
2408 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Rushing Offense – 32nd @ 203 yards per game.
Passing Offense – 115th @ 120 yards per game, with 3 five star starters. Pathetic.


This can't be! I was told over and over last year that JJ didn't produce because of the running game.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:53 am to
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Passing Offense – 115th @ 120 yards per game, with 3 five star starters. Pathetic.


didn't one of those ''FIVE STARS'' drop two balls and one for a t.d.? is it the play called or the five star not doing his job?
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:55 am to
The passing offense is the fault of coaching and not JJ. He's not the one who calls the plays. He is at the mercy of the coaching staff and the plays they call in that regard.

All I know is if I were the number 1 rated 5 star WR in the country and I lived in Baton Rouge, I would elect to play for Southern before I would play for LSU as long as Gary Crowton is here. At least I would get picked a lot higher in the draft. It's just not worth playing for LSU at this point, because it cost you big time in the draft.
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 7:59 am to
quote:

didn't one of those ''FIVE STARS'' drop two balls and one for a t.d.? is it the play called or the five star not doing his job?


I'm not giving RS a free pass for those dropped passes he should have caught last night by a long shot, but nevertheless we don't have a vertical passing game because our OC is too incompetent to call plays or otherwise design plays, whatever the case may be.
Posted by lsu mike
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
8580 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:03 am to
Deadfish. The nerve of you to come on here and post legitimate facts showing that there are still major problems offensively after the thrashing of vandy and miss st. I thought after last night this team was destined to be 8-0.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:05 am to
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but nevertheless we don't have a vertical passing game because our OC is too incompetent to call plays or otherwise design plays, whatever the case may be.


please tell me what kind of play was it that was called when r.s. dropped the t.d.? that wasn't a vertical pass?
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9150 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:06 am to
1 vertical pass = vertical passing game?


Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:07 am to
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This can't be! I was told over and over last year that JJ didn't produce because of the running game


He did not produce because of the running game, the offensive line, dropped passes and Crowton.

Now all Dead Fish has left is Crowton and to highlight dropped passes. Memo to Dead Fish: EVERY QB in the country's passing yards have more than 1 dropped pass as part of the story line, so quit cherry picking that as an excuse.

The truth is that we have a Jr veteran QB who LSU has to cater to by "dumbing down" the offense to the very few plays he can execute. When we do that against middle-of-the-pack competition, which decribes all 3 of our opponents, he can look ok, but cannot present a real passing threat. When we try that formula against a real SEC D, the offensive production is going to be a lot of 3-and-outs.

JJ is safe because he does not turn the ball over and can throw the easy routes to wide open receivers and can run a designed run. He is just so limiited that it is not funny, and believe me Randle and Toliver know that it is not Crowton who is failing to see how wide open they both are so many times, and it is not Miles, and it is not the Oline - It is JJ who is not seeing them, because he has tunnel vision and it his prime reciever is not open by chance, he is flustered and will not throw the ball, but will tuck it and run 99% of the time. That will produce futile offensive attack, as we have witnessed consistently with him at the QB spot.

It is down to JJ. He is why the passing stats suck. You can't blame Crowton for JJ's tunnel vision
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:17 am to
quote:

please tell me what kind of play was it that was called when r.s. dropped the t.d.? that wasn't a vertical pass?


One vertical pass after the game is already decided hardly suffices. How many field goals did we kick last night?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:28 am to
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1 vertical pass = vertical passing game?



i guess you missed the one to randle on the first t.d. drive. you missed the one where j.j. was hit as he threw the ball and was incomplete. (post route to shep, would have been t.d. had he got it off and shep actually caught it.

he called the r.r. t.d. against u.n.c., he called another to t.t. that was incomplete and t.t. had to break up the pass for it to be incomplete rather than int.

look, the reality is we have a qb that is limited in what he can do. the o.c. is actually doing a good job of working with what he has. the guy isn't going to be p. manning and sling the ball all over the field. if he was, i think you see a lot better offense and your opinion of the o.c. wouldn't be the same.

the o.c. can only call the play, the player has to execute the play. (the fade that just missed to t.t. in the end zone. great call should have been t.d., the bubble screen to shep that got batted at the line, t.d. if not batted. great call, just didn't execute it)

you're only noticing the vertical passes that are completed or almost completed. there have been others where j.j. either gets sacked, takes off scrambling, throws the ball away (remember the int against u.n.c?), or it's incomplete.

how many plays are called with a vertical route in it that the qb decides to check down to the short receiver. i.e. toliver on 3rd down and short?

Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9150 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:29 am to
Are you seriously trying making the case we are a vertical passing team? Really?

Posted by Common sence
Gilbert ,Az
Member since Nov 2009
1013 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:35 am to
The offense has a ways to go. It is very much improved from last year. We barely beat Vandy and State last year. Our D has improved a lot as well. We are a lot better this year than last and will be a lot better next year.
Posted by tigerfaninbama
Member since Sep 2004
328 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:35 am to
Deadfish are you crazy! The players make the plays, the Coaches put them in a position to be successful!! Quit Bitching!!!
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Are you seriously trying making the case we are a vertical passing team? Really?



just keep smokin. it's not my fault you only follow the ball and can't see the entire field/game. therefore, you make silly comments.
Posted by jhamil25
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
2480 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:38 am to
quote:

JJ is safe because he does not turn the ball over and can throw the easy routes to wide open receivers and can run a designed run. He is just so limiited that it is not funny, and believe me Randle and Toliver know that it is not Crowton who is failing to see how wide open they both are so many times, and it is not Miles, and it is not the Oline - It is JJ who is not seeing them, because he has tunnel vision and it his prime reciever is not open by chance, he is flustered and will not throw the ball, but will tuck it and run 99% of the time. That will produce futile offensive attack, as we have witnessed consistently with him at the QB spot.

It is down to JJ. He is why the passing stats suck. You can't blame Crowton for JJ's tunnel vision



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This post was edited on 9/19/10 at 8:41 am
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:38 am to
quote:

I would elect to play for Southern before I would play for LSU


You sure you could get into Southern?
I'm doubtful that you have the ability.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9150 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:39 am to
quote:

just keep smokin. it's not my fault you only follow the ball and can't see the entire field/game. therefore, you make silly comments.

So which is it? Do we or don't we have a vertical passing game?
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:40 am to
SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER? IS JL THE ANSWER?


I NEED A SOLUTION BEFORE I READ ANY FARTHER INTO THIS THREAD>
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57229 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 8:41 am to
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Scoring Offense – 71st @ 28.67 points per game.
+
Scoring Defense – 5th @ 11,33 points per game.



Doesn't compute.
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