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Boise State's record vs BCS confs & BCS games, past 5 seasons

Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:12 am
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:12 am
...is 6-1.

No school has a better winning percentage in such games in the same time period.

How many are they going to have to win in order to just be considered a great team and nothing more?

2006 Oregon State (10-4) W
2006 Oklahoma (11-3) W
2007 Washington (4-9) L
2008 Oregon (10-3) W
2009 Oregon (10-3) W
2009 Texas Christian (12-1) W
2010 Virginia Tech (0-1) W

How many teams have more victories over 10-win BCS schools in the past five seasons?
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 10:18 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:14 am to
so they've played 7 BCS teams the last 5 years?

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How many are they going to have to win in order to just be considered a great team
like 3 times that amount over a 5 year span
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:17 am to
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like 3 times that amount over a 5 year span


Posted by SprintFun
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:21 am to
BUT BUT BUT GEORGIA 2005 WTF
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:24 am to
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like 3 times that amount over a 5 year span
Do you have any material that suggests that if they played thrice that schedule that their record would be significantly worse?
Posted by bomber77
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:26 am to
Without debate, Boise came to play some fricking football last night. They beat a very good VA Tech team and the road. An awesome job by them.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:30 am to
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Do you have any material that suggests that if they played thrice that schedule that their record would be significantly worse?
well TCU isn't even a BCS school so they are 5-1 in that span against BCS schools

is there empirical evidence that shows Boise wouldn't maintain that win %? no, but no other schools do. They don't have the talent or depth to last over a 12 game BCS conference schedule right now. Look at how they struggle in WAC games at times. Can they beat anyone in a bowl game? yea, they have excellent coaching and play smart(and dirty). But beating someone in a bowl =/= going through a major conference season
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 10:34 am
Posted by LSUlunatic
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:31 am to
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Do you have any material that suggests that if they played thrice that schedule that their record would be significantly worse?

The majority of their wins over such teams have occurred in situations in which Boise has had a significant duration of time to prepare for those games. They've yet to prove they can succeed against quality teams on a weak by weak basis.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:32 am to
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well TCU isn't even a BCS school so they are 5-1 in that span against BCS schools
The topic of the thread:
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Boise State's record vs BCS confs & BCS games, past 5 seasons
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:34 am to
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The majority of their wins over such teams have occurred in situations in which Boise has had a significant duration of time to prepare for those games.
When have they ever had more time to prepare than their opponents? Are their opponents informed of the game at the last minute or something?
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They've yet to prove they can succeed against quality teams on a weak by weak basis.

Interesting point. I do know that if you give the Big 12 champion a month to prepare for Boise State, they'll likely still lose.

Also, if the eventual Pac-10 champ is given the entire offseason to prepare for Boise State, they'll probably lose.

This is based on events that have actually happened.
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 10:36 am
Posted by LSUlunatic
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:37 am to
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When have they ever had more time to prepare than their opponents? Are their opponents informed of the game at the last minute or something?

I assume that the majority of those BCS victories were against teams who didn't take Boise St. with the level of seriousness that Boise St. deserved, resulting in a severe advantage for Boise St.

That's kindof irrelevant in comparison to this though:

They've yet to prove they can succeed against quality teams on a weak by weak basis.

And until they prove they can win against quality teams on a week by week basis, they'll never be considered anything more than a pretty good team.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:39 am to
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Interesting point. I do know that if you give the Big 12 champion a month to prepare for Boise State, they'll likely still lose.

Also, if the eventual Pac-10 champ is given the entire offseason to prepare for Boise State, they'll probably lose.

This is based on events that have actually happened.
Boise's coaches have prepared Boise much better both in X's and O's and in motivation. Boise doesnt have an unfair advantage, they are just better. Having said that, pure talent wins out when you're going through the grind of a conference season. Not in every game, but it averages out
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:41 am to
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They've yet to prove they can succeed against quality teams on a weak by weak basis


Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:48 am to
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Look at how they struggle in WAC games at times


yeah, SEC teams and LSU never struggle with WAC teams or lower.

(Ole miss vs. Jax state)
(LSU vs. LT)
(ULM vs. Alabama)
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:53 am to
It's also a dumb argument to say that Boise has more time to prepare for the game, or that their opponent doesn't care about the game.

In 2006, Boise State played and beat Oregon State. OSU played Eastern Washington the week before and Idaho the next week. Was Boise State a trap game?

In the 2007 Fiesta Bowl, BSU played Big 12 Champ Oklahoma. Each team had roughly 3.5 weeks to prepare. Calling a BCS bowl a trap game for OU?

In 2007, BSU lost to Washington, who sucked that year. This is their only loss to a BCS opponent in five seasons.

In 2008, BSU played and beat Oregon (10-3). The week before, Oregon played Purdue (4-8), and the next week they played Washington State (2-11). Trap game?

In 2009, BSU played and beat Oregon (10-3) in the season opener. Oregon played Purdue (5-7) the following week. Big trap game there. :lol:

Last night BSU played and beat Virginia Tech in the season opener. BSU is ranked in the top 10 in every poll imaginable. Trap game for VT? :lol:

There is no argument against BSU that holds water. If they weren't great, they wouldn't beat the great teams so frequently.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:59 am to
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yeah, SEC teams and LSU never struggle with WAC teams or lower
yea ok for every JSU over Ole Miss there are 50 UGA vs. ULL. Don't be stupid

Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:59 am to
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It's also a dumb argument to say that Boise has more time to prepare for the game, or that their opponent doesn't care about the game.
i agree. It's a dumb argument. Did you not see where I said Boise is better at game preparation? They don't have an unfair advantage, they are just better at preparing
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 11:02 am to
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i agree. It's a dumb argument. Did you not see where I said Boise is better at game preparation? They don't have an unfair advantage, they are just better at preparing
Exactly.

I wonder if any BSU haters can give me injury reports from those games where they beat BCS teams?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 11:20 am to
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How many are they going to have to win in order to just be considered a great team and nothing more?

when their total games against BCS opponents over the past 5 years is their record in 1 year
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 11:21 am to
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Do you have any material that suggests that if they played thrice that schedule that their record would be significantly worse?

how about the fact that they wear down through a WAC schedule?
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