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The Well Bore Is Pierced

Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Bulletproof Lover
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1900 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:12 pm
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL): Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed… which would indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually pierced… underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be just enormous with what we’re facing.

Andrea Mitchell, MSNBC: Now let me understand better what you’re saying. If that is true that it is coming up from that seabed, even the relief well won’t be the final solution to cap this thing. That means that we’ve got oil gushing up at disparate places along the ocean floor.

Sen. Nelson: That is possible, unless you get the plug down low enough, below where the pipe would be breached.

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This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 2:20 am
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14661 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:40 pm to
Where does that article say that it's in the sea floor?

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Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:43 pm to


media is just fricking bored today since there is nothing of value to report about the spill
quote:


Well Integrity Test remains at satisfactory pressure; pressure increased to 6,773 pounds per square inch. (SLB)•Seismic testing results show no anomalies detected. (SLB) •Retired U.S. Coast Guard ADM Thad Allen said Saturday that after the test was complete, the cap would be hooked up through nearly a mile of pipes to ships that will collect the oil. But that would mean oil would have to be released back into the Gulf for three days to release pressure from the well, BP Chief Operating Officer, Doug Suttlessaid. The oil giant hopes to instead keep the oil shut in until its permanent measure is completed, although Suttlessaid BP was taking it day by day. It wasn't immediately clear if the plan had changed, or if BP and the government disagreed about the next move. Allen will make the ultimate decision. (AP News)
Posted by eye65
Member since Aug 2009
987 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by Lafman
Member since Mar 2010
540 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 6:53 pm to
there are natural seeps worldwide.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

The Associated Press quoted an unnamed administration official as saying that the new cap was seeping and that "possible methane" had been detected near the broken well. BP is concerned that opening the cap would result in another three days of oil flowing into the Gulf, while the government thinks a return to pumping oil could be necessary to ease pressure on the fragile well, the reports said.


It is another one of those reliable "unnamed sources." So you have some idiot who does know his anus from an annulus saying something in the dark to a reporter who has nothing else to report.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53800 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 7:18 pm to
It's coming!!!

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Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72865 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 8:42 pm to
Oh shite! Tsunami time!! Have fun New Orleans!!!
Posted by Droplinebacker
Member since Jan 2004
786 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 9:04 pm to
Thad Allen manning up....something going on here.

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Dear Mr. Dudley,

My letter to you on July 16, 2010 extended the Well Integrity Test period contingent upon the completion of seismic surveys, robust monitoring for indications of leakage, and acoustic testing by the NOAA vessel PISCES in the immediate vicinity of the well head. Given the current observations from the test, including the detected seep a distance from the well and undetermined anomalies at the well head, monitoring of the seabed is of paramount importance during the test period. As a continued condition of the test, you are required to provide as a top priority access and coordination for the monitoring systems, which include seismic and sonar surface ships and subsea ROV and acoustic systems. When seeps are detected, you are directed to marshal resources, quickly investigate, and report findings to the government in no more than four hours. I direct you to provide me a written procedure for opening the choke valve as quickly as possible without damaging the well should hydrocarbon seepage near the well head be confirmed.

As the National Incident Commander, I must remain abreast of the status of your source control efforts. Now that source control has evolved into a period beyond the expected 48 hour interval of the Well Integrity Test, I am requiring that you provide me a written update within 24 hours of your intentions going forward. I remain concerned that all potential options to eliminate the discharge of oil be pursued with utmost speed until I can be assured that no additional oil will spill from the Macondo Well.

You may use your letter of 9 July as a basis for your update. Specifically, you must provide me your latest containment plan and schedule in the event that the Well Integrity Test is suspended, the status and completion timelines for all containment options currently under development, and details of any other viable source control options including hydraulic control that you are
considering. You should highlight any points at which progress along one option will be impacted by resource trade-offs to achieve progress along another option. Include options for and impacts of continued twice-a day seismic testing versus once a day testing.

As you develop the plans above, note that the primary method of securing the source is the relief well and this effort takes precedence. Therefore, I direct you to provide a detailed plan for the final stages of the relief well that specifically addresses the interaction of this schedule and any other activity that may potentially delay relief well completion.

Have your representative provide results on the monitoring efforts and source control requirements described above during today’s BP and Government Science Team call at 8:00 PM CDT.

Sincerely,

THAD W. ALLEN
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72865 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 9:11 pm to
That fricker's gonna blow!!!
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25909 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

genuineLSUtiger
Seep in Sea Floor
That fricker's gonna blow!!


I was optimistic until Allen wrote that letter to Doug Suttles. I'm getting very nervous we might have a 2 year uncontrolled gusher heading our way.
Posted by Bulletproof Lover
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1900 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 2:13 am to
They will open it back up by noon tomorrow. The Feds are afraid of a total collapse. The only hope is the relief well.

This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 2:23 am
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 7:00 am to
July 19,2010

Dear Admiral Allen:

Please open that well back up. I am afraid of seeps and volcanoes and tsunamis. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Chicken Little
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 7:05 am to
Allen extended the shut in for another 24 hours last night. There is no way he would have done that it if he believed it was going to produce to surface through or crater. There is really no evidence right now of a well integrity issue.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31436 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 7:25 am to
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Bill Nelson


nutcase
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8544 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Sen. Nelson: That is possible, unless you get the plug down low enough, below where the pipe would be breached.


This makes no sense.
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5716 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 10:41 am to
Ok, if that is really the situation, then wouldn't it be in our environmental interests to 'drill, baby, drill' as much as possible and on a fairly permanent basis. I'm not a big proponent of deep water drilling, but in this case the more the better, right? Better to capture than allow seepage?
Posted by eye65
Member since Aug 2009
987 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 10:50 am to
Statement by National Incident Commander Admiral Thad Allen:

"Yesterday I sent BP a letter stating that there were a number of unanswered questions about the monitoring systems they committed to as a condition of the US government extending the well integrity test. Last night a conference call between the federal science team and BP representatives was convened to discuss some specific issues, including the detection of a seep near the well and the possible observation of methane over the well. During the conversation, the federal science team got the answers they were seeking and the commitment from BP to meet their monitoring and notification obligations.

Ongoing monitoring and full analysis of both the seepage and methane will continue in coordination with the science team.

I authorized BP to continue the integrity test for another 24 hours and I restated our firm position that this test will only continue if they continue to meet their obligations to rigorously monitor for any signs that this test could worsen the overall situation. At any moment, we have the ability to return to the safe containment of the oil on the surface until the time the relief well is completed and the well is permanently killed."
Posted by Oily Tigah
City of Surup
Member since May 2007
2373 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

The Feds are afraid of a total collapse.


As they should be.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89829 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

The Well Bore MIGHT BE Pierced


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