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The Big 3
Posted on 7/3/10 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 7/3/10 at 12:09 pm
I just wanted to know why baseball can be compared to Football and Basketball as far as being a major college sport? ESPN doesnt even start showing baseball games until the regionals. They also show the lacrosse championships, would that one be 4?
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Posted on 7/3/10 at 12:10 pm to TigaB8a
I don't think so
Posted on 7/3/10 at 12:11 pm to TigaB8a
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This post was edited on 7/3/10 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 7/3/10 at 12:16 pm to TigaB8a
pro sports brah
that is why its concidered one of the 3.
that is why its concidered one of the 3.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 12:17 pm to TigaB8a
quote:Yes, they do. I saw several baseball games on the various ESPN networks during the season.
ESPN doesnt even start showing baseball games until the regionals.
But for the most part, I think the "Big 3" in college sports is an artifact of the "Big 3" in pro sports; because the NFL, MLB and NBA are often lumped together, many consider their college counterparts similarly grouped. The NHL might seem to necessitate inclusion of college hockey, but hockey is still far too much of a regional sport (in terms of general participation; very few high school or college hockey teams outside of the far north).
But aside from that, my understanding is that in terms of participation (number of schools fielding teams) and attendance, college baseball is well removed from any other NCAA sports besides football and men's basketball. So cutting it off at three is not entirely arbitrary. But with football and men's basketball being so far above baseball (or anything else) in those terms as well as in revenue generation, there is significant justification for classifying them in their own category of two, and they often are (as in CFN's annual "Hoops and Helmets" feature).
Posted on 7/3/10 at 12:17 pm to TigaB8a
quote:
I just wanted to know why baseball can be compared to Football and Basketball as far as being a major college sport?
Outside of LSU (where baseball is No. 2) and a handful of other schools, I don't think baseball can even remotely be considered in the Big 3.
In fact overall nationwide, women's hoops which is ridiculed here, is more popular than baseball in per-game attendance and t.v. ratings and it's not even really that close.
I think we as LSU fans like to pat ourselves on the back sometimes about what great fans we are, when in fact in football and hoops I don't see that to be the case.
But as far as baseball goes there are no other fans like LSU's. Not many other schools are fans living and dying with a sport the rest of the country scarcely notices. It's truly a special relationship.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 12:29 pm to Tiger Ugly
quote:Really? I thought baseball had better attendance figures nationwide. That's surprising.
In fact overall nationwide, women's hoops which is ridiculed here, is more popular than baseball in per-game attendance and t.v. ratings and it's not even really that close.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 1:31 pm to King Joey
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Really? I thought baseball had better attendance figures nationwide. That's surprising.
Easy to look up. Just google NCAA women's basketball attendance and the same for baseball. I was a bit surprised the first time I pulled it up too. I thought it would be close...it really isn't even particularly close.
T.V. ratings the same thing.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 1:34 pm to Tiger Ugly
quote:Yeah, if I'd actually doubted you, I probably would have. But I was just surprised, because I thought I had looked it up once way back when. Maybe that was just SEC stats or something . . . maybe total attendance rather than per game?
Easy to look up. Just google NCAA women's basketball attendance and the same for baseball.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 1:43 pm to Tiger Ugly
Seems to me that it would be:
Football
Men's Basketball
Women's Basketball
Baseball
Men's Lacrosse
Hockey
Softball
Women's Lacrosse
Soccer
Track and Field
Other
I'm sure I'm forgetting something.
Football
Men's Basketball
Women's Basketball
Baseball
Men's Lacrosse
Hockey
Softball
Women's Lacrosse
Soccer
Track and Field
Other
I'm sure I'm forgetting something.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:06 pm to Gmorgan4982
I am one who believes that College baseball could a major sport if the networks helped in pushing it through programimg. There is a lot of meaningless junck telecast during College baseball season that could be replaced with baseball games. It has become one of the fstest growing College sports. Google baseball attendance for the last 20 years and you will see the growth there and you can also see the possibilty that is there if only the sport was pushed the way a lot of these so called regional sports have been. Baseball is not regional it is all over the country unlike hockey and Lacross and wrestling are.
The SEC has as a conference shown that the possibility is there all you have to do is look at how every team has expanded their stadiums over the last ten years or even five years. LSU could build a 20,000 seat stadium and it would be filled just about every weekend. Look at this past years CWS attendance and coverage how much it was covered. I believe that is what gives the edge to the SEC in the CWS because the players play in front of the largest crowds in all of College baseball.
I love College baseball and wish they would carry more of the games across the country and I believe it would grow in leaps and bounds if only it was ginen a decent chance.
The SEC has as a conference shown that the possibility is there all you have to do is look at how every team has expanded their stadiums over the last ten years or even five years. LSU could build a 20,000 seat stadium and it would be filled just about every weekend. Look at this past years CWS attendance and coverage how much it was covered. I believe that is what gives the edge to the SEC in the CWS because the players play in front of the largest crowds in all of College baseball.
I love College baseball and wish they would carry more of the games across the country and I believe it would grow in leaps and bounds if only it was ginen a decent chance.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:21 pm to CaseyMc2
I think ESPN sees it as a sport that won't catch on much in the Northeast, where a large portion of the U.S. population lives. They can't play it throughout the summer and, thus, the Northeastern teams cannot play as much in decent weather and it will take a lot of work for it to catch on up there. Therefore, ESPN is not going to promote it too much. If it's not on Sportscenter, ATH, PTI, First and Ten, and whatever other ESPN shows there are, it won't gain in popularity. Maybe not you, but with a number of people, ESPN tells them which sports they want to watch.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:34 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
I think ESPN sees it as a sport that won't catch on much in the Northeast, where a large portion of the U.S. population lives.
This and ESPN has made periodic attempts over the years to telecast regular season college baseball with the results always being low ratings.
I can remember watching LSU and Mississipi State regular season on ESPN back in 1985.
ESPN is a business and if they think there's mone to be made on it they will promote it.
For the passionate LSU fans there will never be eonugh promotion of it for we perceive college baseball in a different light than most of the country.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:38 pm to Gmorgan4982
I wish the SEC had men's soccer. Women's soccer makes the sport look bad because they don't hit or anything. They make soccer look like it isn't a contact sport
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:39 pm to TigaB8a
I don't understand the question.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 5:33 pm to Lacour
Baseball is lumped into the Big 3 because LSU is an elite baseball club, if LSU didn't have 6 baseball titles no one would talk about it.
Up north the big 3 are hockey, football and basketball because the hockey teams are very good at the big ten schools that play it. No one cares about baseball in the big ten because the baseball teams aren't very good.
Up north the big 3 are hockey, football and basketball because the hockey teams are very good at the big ten schools that play it. No one cares about baseball in the big ten because the baseball teams aren't very good.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 5:51 pm to Michigan Man1817
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Baseball is lumped into the Big 3 because LSU is an elite baseball club, if LSU didn't have 6 baseball titles no one would talk about it.
I think that accurate Michigan. College baseball in much of the country is still like it was here before Skip.
LSU and what Skip built here is the overwhelming reason some other Louisiana and SEC schools have upgraded baseball and made concerted efforts, with Skip disciples like Wells and Bianco leading the way.
Texas also seems to have some passion for college baseball but outside of that, again it's pre-Skip LSU in most of the country.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 6:58 pm to Tiger Ugly
quote:
T.V. ratings the same thing.
I think this has a lot to do with the fact it is the only markable women's sports(IDK why though).
Women's basketball is so much weaker than men's I find it wierd people even care about it.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 7:02 pm to TigaB8a
quote:
The Big 3
Baseball makes a hell of a lot more in revenue than basketball does
Posted on 7/3/10 at 7:03 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Women's basketball is so much weaker than men's I find it wierd people even care about it.
I only care in the least about LSU women's hoops and that relatively dispassionately, so I agree.
But for me it's ironic that we so often dismiss it and ridicule folks who dare post about it when we as a fanbase so passionately embrace a sport that is a mere blip on the radar in most of the rest of the country.
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