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No alcohol in Jones accident

Posted on 6/28/10 at 3:54 pm
Posted by dolf1967
Missouri
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/28/10 at 3:54 pm
Posted by ShowMeTheMoney7
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
770 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:01 pm to
sounds more like, "don't know if alcohol was involved" to me.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:01 pm to
How convenient.......

I mean think about it, there was no way to get blood during a surgery of a pertruding compound fracture.
Posted by MikeJackon428
Denham
Member since Jul 2009
497 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:11 pm to
so no tests were done.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6703 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:19 pm to
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How convenient.......

Are you hinting at a cover up? That seems a bit ridiculous.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

No alcohol in Jones accident


Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77313 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:33 pm to
Its not that ridiculous to think he was probably drunk, no tests were taken, so they don't know.
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
53591 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

We have two tests we use when the driver is alive: The Intoxilyzer 5000 and a blood test,” Harper said. “Obviously we couldn’t administer the breathalyzer because the driver needed to go to the hospital. And when the officers got to the hospital to request a blood test, he was already in surgery and by then it was too late.”


so if i were to be pulled over after drinking the best bet is too stab myself and be rushed to the hospital
Posted by ThePenIsMightier
Member since Jul 2006
9060 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

I mean think about it, there was no way to get blood during a surgery of a pertruding compound fracture


And when the officers got to the hospital to request a blood test, he was already in surgery and by then it was too late.”

Read it carefully.

They couldn't do the blood test because of the immediate need for surgery. I don't think the test would be very accurate if they just soaked up a little of the blood from the floorboard of his car.
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
53591 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Its not that ridiculous to think he was probably drunk, no tests were taken, so they don't know.


i hope he was not just wondering why you would be driving at 6 am with 2 people in the car. maybe they were going to work out or something
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16837 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:41 pm to
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And when the officers got to the hospital to request a blood test, he was already in surgery and by then it was too late.”


this is pure bullshite... they had to have drawn labs when he arrived at the hospital. Since he was a major trauma victim, the Doctor would have probably ordered a trauma panel which would include drug and alcohol tests. Even if they did not order on the spot... they already had plenty of blood drawn from the safety labs and could have easily just tacked on the tox screens from the blood in lab.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:42 pm to
quote:


i hope he was not just wondering why you would be driving at 6 am with 2 people in the car.


the article stated that after evaluating the scene and interviewing Jones and the passengers they had no reason to believe alcohol was a factor. That enough more me to assume that it wasn't a factor, absent a test.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9187 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:45 pm to

quote:

they already had plenty of blood drawn from the safety labs and could have easily just tacked on the tox screens from the blood in lab


Not sure but there might be some 4th Amendment constitutional constraints for illegal search and seizure here.

They would probably need probable cause, or possibly a warrant to proceed. If the investigation did not turn up and probable cause then they may be limited procedurally
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16837 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:52 pm to
medically you would need a tox screen though since it could affect the medical treatment... I'm not a health professional yet, but I worked in the ER for years and all traumas got tox screens and BAC.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9187 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:55 pm to

quote:

medically you would need a tox screen though since it could affect the medical treatment


It may be necessary medically, but that does not mean the government has a right to seize it under the constitution.

I'm not sure the exact law, would take some research, but there are definitely some constitutional concerns, especially if there was no probable cause developed at the scene
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:57 pm to
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I'm not sure the exact law, would take some research, but there are definitely some constitutional concerns, especially if there was no probable cause developed at the scene


probably some HIPAA issues as well...
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 5:09 pm to
why do people assume the worst of the guy? i swear it seems like people want him to have been under the influence..
This post was edited on 6/28/10 at 5:11 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 5:16 pm to
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why do people assume the worst of the guy?


was thinking about that earlier when reading this thread...seems like society has shifted towards an assumption of guilt, and even when evidence is presented otherwise, they think it's tainted. It's the Reality TV generation I guess...
Posted by 1STCoastTiger
Member since Nov 2007
259 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 5:20 pm to
I wonder if it is more likely to be texting and driving. These young kids just don't realize that texting is probably as deadly as drinking and driving. My prayers are with him anyways.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16837 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 5:23 pm to
I think we are just too used to athletes behaving badly that we almost expect it now... we have been burned over and over over the past 10 years. I know I have a much more cynical attitude towards professional athletes these days.
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